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| Barryg |
Posted on 01/11/10 - 12:34 PM
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I have had some free time. So I have been looking for projects. I found a nice 1968 Nauset. The boat has been in a boathouse or garage its whole life. The Motor looks very good it also is a 1968(Johnson 65). THe question is do I keep the 68 Motor or I have a 90's Evinrude 70 that I can put on it. 68 looks very classic and to me it adds to the condition of a total 68 Whaler. The Trailer is also a 68 I don't know if I want to break up the 68 thing ??? I can not keep this one so the end result will be selling it . Thanks BG
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| Brian7son |
Posted on 01/11/10 - 12:48 PM
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Barry,
If I read you right, you're buying it as a project with the intent of reselling it. If that's the case and the older moter looks to be in good shape as you suggest, I'd keep it original.
The only reason to swap the engine would be if you intended to use the boat all the time for fishing, etc. and wanted something more reliable.
The older motors look cool. I have a 59' Reinell with a 1959 Johnson on it. It runs but requires regular work. A new motor would run much nicer, but would take away from the charm of the old boat.
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| modenacart |
Posted on 01/11/10 - 1:26 PM
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I would keep the older engine.
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| MW |
Posted on 01/11/10 - 1:58 PM
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If you're gonna "Spin" the boat, which engine will yeild a greater profit ?
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| RevengeFamily |
Posted on 01/11/10 - 1:59 PM
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That sounds like a great boat. Most definately keep it "stock". When you get a chance please post some photos.
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| HarleyFXDL |
Posted on 01/11/10 - 2:13 PM
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If the old motor runs good, it's a no-brainer, keep the old engine to sell with the boat. The newer engine can be kept for a future project that may require a re-power.
Kevin
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| MW |
Posted on 01/11/10 - 3:11 PM
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Are part's still available for the older engine ?
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| HarleyFXDL |
Posted on 01/11/10 - 3:31 PM
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I have heard of a few parts dealers that have parts for the older engines.
Kevin
1988 11' Super Sport, 1987 Johnson 15hp.
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| David Pendleton |
Posted on 01/11/10 - 4:41 PM
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I'd restore the old engine.
Check out these guys if you need parts, their web site is a bit messy, but they have thousands of motors and parts:
http://www.twincityoutboard.com/board.com/
Edited by David Pendleton on 01/11/10 - 4:45 PM
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| mstahl1171 |
Posted on 01/11/10 - 5:35 PM
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Keep the old motor....oldies but goodies. Tons of parts are available and they are easy to work on too....if you have the factory repair manuals which you can get on ebay for about 6-12 $$. If you look at my personal page the motor I bought cost me $275.00 Delivered to my house. Since then I have put $60.00 into it to get it top notch. Runs smooth as silk. Next I will repaint in the original factory colors.
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| Binkie |
Posted on 01/11/10 - 5:37 PM
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As a member of the AOMCI I would definitely keep the old motor if I was going to keep it for myself. But if I was going to sell the whole rig, I would probably put the newer motor on it, as it would have an appeal to a larger audience. Most folks don`t want to be messing with a gas burning old outboard, especially if a guy buys it for family fun. First after I clean the rig up, and get it ready to sell, I would advertise it in the AOMCI (Antique outboard Motor Clu site, in their free classified section, and see what happens with that. You might find a member that only wants the engine. If no luck with that, then I would try to sell it with the newer motor on it to the general public, or sell it either way, with either motors at two different prices. Is the 65 a V-4 or a triple? I might be interested in the motor myself.
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| Binkie |
Posted on 01/11/10 - 5:43 PM
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Here is the link to the AOMCI
http://www.aomci.org/
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| Barryg |
Posted on 01/11/10 - 6:09 PM
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MW wrote:
If you're gonna "Spin" the boat, which engine will yeild a greater profit ?
Matt, that is the question I just ran around the bush a few times...
Binkie , I think it is a 4 . I will know tomorrow I am going to take it in and have it checked.
I will post some pics tomorrow. BG
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| HarleyFXDL |
Posted on 01/11/10 - 6:17 PM
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Binkie has a sweet old evinrude, very clean.
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| MW |
Posted on 01/12/10 - 1:58 AM
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I'm just thinking that the first question somebody would ask would be "What year is the engine" ? Now don't get me wrong, I think that "Old engines" are "COOL" (I love vintage snow mobile parades), and like "Bink" said, you might want to put it in a "Special interest" paper and get some better $. I'm just thinking that the "AVERAGE" Joe Boater, would have no interest in something as "Special" as that, or appreciate it. Many people have engine's that are 20+ years old (or more) and in "Excellent" running condition. If I'm looking at a used boat, and I don't know the owner, and the engine is more than 10 years old, I'm figuring that it's on "Borrowed time", and need's to be re-powered.
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| Binkie |
Posted on 01/12/10 - 4:34 AM
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Harley says; Binkie has a sweet old evinrude, very clean.
That's true, its a 1958 35hp Evinrude Lark. I ran it on my 13 footer for 6 months when I first restored the boat, but didn`t like to run it in salt water, so I replaced it with a new 25hp Merc/Tohatsu 4 stroke. The motor sits on a stand in the garage now until I finish the restoration of a '50's glass runabout, that I will run with the Lark at the AOMCI events. Those old OMC's are great motors, parts are plentiful including coils points and condensers, and they have gobs of torque. Of course they burn alot of fuel, Also they are very plentiful and are not expensive to buy. If they were I would sell this Lark.
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| whalerman |
Posted on 01/12/10 - 8:32 AM
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MY vote would be to keep the"ole Johnson" as it's great to see the "vintage Whalers" as they are. There are alot of really nice looking ones here on this site. Good luck with her.
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| Barryg |
Posted on 01/12/10 - 4:30 PM
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I have added pics to my personal page
Binkie the motor is a 4
THanks BG
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| mstahl1171 |
Posted on 01/12/10 - 5:08 PM
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BG..I say keep the motor. Thats a really nice 68 electric shift Johnson 65HP. If you ever need parts I have a source here in Maryland from a local dealer. Brings back fond memories of my fathers old Revel Craft with his 65 Johnson. Only problem he ever had was the lower unit seals went bad and water leaked into the oil. Bad thing for electric shift units. We only had to replace the seals and shift coils and problem solved. Great motor.....ours still runs up and down the Chesapeake Bay on my brothers Starcraft to this day.
Mark
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| womms |
Posted on 01/12/10 - 6:07 PM
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Barry, that is one beautiful setup. I just don't think that it would look quite as good with a modern outboard.
The boat and motor look like they are both in great shape.
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