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Tiller Steering on a 17'
JPB	#1  Posted on 12/07/09 - 3:09 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 103 Comments: 0 Joined: 02/26/09	Anybody have experience setting up a 17 foot with tiller steering? Joey
HarleyFXDL	#2  Posted on 12/07/09 - 3:22 PM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 917 Comments: 30 Joined: 07/24/07	Not much to it. Hang an engine off the back that has a tiller. A lot of work boats have that set up cause it leaves a big open deck to work with. Kevin 1988 11' Super Sport, 1987 Johnson 15hp. If you think education is expensive, try ignorance "Vegetarian - old Indian word for bad fisherman."
number9	#3  Posted on 12/07/09 - 3:28 PM
Member Posts: 210 Comments: 1 Joined: 03/13/08	No experience here but you have all kinds of options starting with a clean canvas. It would be nice to open up all that space. What hp would you be using? Bill...On the Ogeechee 1984 Outrage 18...Yamaha T50...that's right, 50hp
John Fyke	#4  Posted on 12/07/09 - 3:36 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 1307 Comments: 0 Joined: 09/06/06	Just my 2 cents but why would you?
JPB	#5  Posted on 12/07/09 - 3:48 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 103 Comments: 0 Joined: 02/26/09	Yea, I am thinking a 50 or 60 four stroke would meet our needs. I would like to get opinions on weight placement while maintaining the open deck and how the added weight at the rear from the driver might effect performance. The boat will be rigged with a 30 gallon bait well, 2 down riggers, trolling motor, 2 deep cycle batteries, and bow rail for fly casting. I am thinking a simple teak bench across the back....at times I would like to stand while driving so a grab bar would be nice somewhere.... Just free thinking here..feel free to jump in....Thanks Joey
HarleyFXDL	#6  Posted on 12/07/09 - 5:41 PM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 917 Comments: 30 Joined: 07/24/07	I've seen a whaler on LI used as a clam boat. He had removed everything from interior and had a tiller outboard. Mind you this is how he put food on the table though. Kevin 1988 11' Super Sport, 1987 Johnson 15hp. If you think education is expensive, try ignorance "Vegetarian - old Indian word for bad fisherman."
Binkie	#7  Posted on 12/07/09 - 7:56 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 2012 Comments: 0 Joined: 12/19/05	Be careful, some tiller powered boats can be dangerous. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PpUDT...r_embedded Rich
HarleyFXDL	#8  Posted on 12/08/09 - 7:59 AM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 917 Comments: 30 Joined: 07/24/07	That's a little over the top Rich. Those guys should have their heads examined. Kevin 1988 11' Super Sport, 1987 Johnson 15hp. If you think education is expensive, try ignorance "Vegetarian - old Indian word for bad fisherman."
JPB	#9  Posted on 12/08/09 - 3:19 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 103 Comments: 0 Joined: 02/26/09	"Boats don't kill people....people kill people"
womms	#10  Posted on 12/08/09 - 4:41 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 122 Comments: 0 Joined: 04/06/08	Rich, where do you come up with this stuff? Michael 1989 Outrage 22' Whaler Drive, 2014 Honda 250
jharrell	#11  Posted on 12/08/09 - 8:39 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 77 Comments: 0 Joined: 08/26/09	I wonder how one of these would work on a whaler, would be nice to go that shallow http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV8FyH...eature=fvw
HarleyFXDL	#12  Posted on 12/09/09 - 7:56 AM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 917 Comments: 30 Joined: 07/24/07	Surface drive units are popular in the far east. Big rock still present a hazard. Kevin 1988 11' Super Sport, 1987 Johnson 15hp. If you think education is expensive, try ignorance "Vegetarian - old Indian word for bad fisherman."
Fishmore	#13  Posted on 12/09/09 - 8:08 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 270 Comments: 0 Joined: 11/20/07	Just last weekend I was thinking about a 17 with tiller steering. My wife always complains that there is not enough seating in the Montauk and I had a brief fantasy after seeing a Honda 60 at the dealer showroom. I decided it would devalue the boat too much. If you are interested in doing this there is a book called the The Outboard Boater's Handbook, by David R. Getchell, Price: $21.95 it goes in to this subject of tiller steered boats with an 18 foot Lund the author used to travel northeastern coastal waters. There is also a section on dressing up a Whaler for camping. It is a good book for ideas.
vkg65	#14  Posted on 12/09/09 - 8:36 AM
Member Posts: 9 Comments: 1 Joined: 08/26/07	I'm putting one together this winter. I agree the extra room is great! I will add a fwd mahogany casting platform and a 12" aft bench seat. I read 50 hp is the max hp BW suggest w/ a tiller. I feel a 40hp will be fine. This will be our clam / flounder rig and use the Nauset for cruising. Tom
JPB	#15  Posted on 12/09/09 - 4:43 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 103 Comments: 0 Joined: 02/26/09	Fishmore.....Thanks for the book references. After installing the console, I am pretty sure it will just get in our way. I am going to take a step back before going forward. Tom....Keep me updated on you project and post some pics if you have them.
tom blinstrub	#16  Posted on 12/17/09 - 5:29 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 369 Comments: 0 Joined: 12/14/09	35 or 40 hp is max recomended tiller steering on the 16 ft. but those bigger tiller motors have longer tiller handles than the older motors from the early days.but with all that weight on the back end with you there and your batteries you better figure a way to secure the batteries,fuel,bait tank,etc up forward or you will sit a?s heavy and have trouble planning at a slow speed.before i installed the console in my 16 i ran one season with twin 8hp tohatsu 2strokes at 120 lbs total.i kept one motor tighened down so it wouldn't turn and used the other to steer.it worked great and at 90% power she would cruise at 11 to 12 knots and level.sure got some crazy looks.good luck
vkg65	#17  Posted on 12/17/09 - 5:45 AM
Member Posts: 9 Comments: 1 Joined: 08/26/07	Tom, Thanks for the information. I built a fwd casting platform w/ 4/4 mahogany and installed a 16 gal. fuel tank under it. I hope this hepls to off-set the weight in the stern.
Fishmore	#18  Posted on 12/17/09 - 9:47 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 270 Comments: 0 Joined: 11/20/07	A 40hp motor should do fine in that application. Before I converted mine to a Montauk it was a Currituck with a Yamaha 40hp 2-stroke, it pushed the boat to 28mph WOT and cruised around 18-20mph.
HarleyFXDL	#19  Posted on 12/18/09 - 9:13 AM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 917 Comments: 30 Joined: 07/24/07	You can always use this to help control the boat: http://www.target.com/s/187-8284686-1...rget104545 Kevin 1988 11' Super Sport, 1987 Johnson 15hp. If you think education is expensive, try ignorance "Vegetarian - old Indian word for bad fisherman."