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outrage 18 repowered Honda bf 150 HP
surfer	#1  Posted on 09/20/09 - 6:14 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 8 Comments: 1 Joined: 08/22/09	There is too much water in the transom? Any thoughts or ideas? The boat goes very well. [img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/ppimages/14995/IMG_0194.jpg[/img] for more photos visit: http://www.whalercentral.com/infusion...r_id=14995 Surfer Outrage 18 2009 Honda BF 150 HP V-TEC - 2008 BF 10 Hp Honda kicker
kamie	#2  Posted on 09/20/09 - 6:48 AM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 2975 Comments: 3 Joined: 11/04/05	If having the water in the splashwell bothers you, plug the drains and install a bilge pump. I would suggest an 1100GPH Rule with the internal float switch. Depending on the age of the outboard you replaced, you dropped about 100# more weight on the back of the boat.
RevengeFamily	#3  Posted on 09/20/09 - 7:36 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 192 Comments: 2 Joined: 06/21/08	EDIT: Please, English only..... Thank You Sorry Joe, I had planned on translating to english but time was short. I needed to get out the door to my soccer team. Edited by RevengeFamily on 09/21/09 - 4:15 AM 1999 280 Conquest w/twin 225 Mercs "When the people fear their government there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." Thomas Jefferson
surfer	#4  Posted on 09/20/09 - 1:58 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 8 Comments: 1 Joined: 08/22/09	Thank You Kamie. It's a good idea to plug drains and install a bilge pump, for the summer period. For the winter I don't like to depend on a bilge pump/battery. I also have a cover, is easy to mount on, but is not enough in the winter. The old engine was a 1992 Mercury 150 hp (http://www.whalercentral.com/infusion...r_id=14995) Norm, between two layers of fiberglass I think that there isn't a water. Is only the weight of the engines... and other Equipment also... I Hope!!! During the navigation is all ok. Do you think that the water in splashwell is a really problem or not? Thank you. Edited by surfer on 09/20/09 - 2:03 PM Surfer Outrage 18 2009 Honda BF 150 HP V-TEC - 2008 BF 10 Hp Honda kicker
kamie	#5  Posted on 09/20/09 - 2:12 PM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 2975 Comments: 3 Joined: 11/04/05	Surfer, you added 80# to the back of your boat. I am not surprised that the drains are underwater. You also have a stern seat which is about 100#. I am guessing that with your old outboard the drains were maybe and inch above the water and now they are at or under. Personally, I would not worry about a little water. I would make sure that any and all holes in the splashwell were sealed so no water could find it's way into the hull. When I left my boat in a slip, I plugged my drains, ran two bilge pumps and used a solar charger to keep the battery topped off.
WhalerDan	#6  Posted on 09/20/09 - 2:33 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 245 Comments: 1 Joined: 11/13/05	get rid of the kicker motor
surfer	#7  Posted on 09/20/09 - 2:37 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 8 Comments: 1 Joined: 08/22/09	Thank you Excuse me, my name is Roberto... Is correct, with my old outboard the drains were at the water line, now they are under the water line, one inch above. I study the changes. Do you plug the drains outside or inside the transom? Thank you a lot. Surfer Outrage 18 2009 Honda BF 150 HP V-TEC - 2008 BF 10 Hp Honda kicker
surfer	#8  Posted on 09/20/09 - 2:43 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 8 Comments: 1 Joined: 08/22/09	No kicker, no fish :-) I'm trolling. Surfer Outrage 18 2009 Honda BF 150 HP V-TEC - 2008 BF 10 Hp Honda kicker
kamie	#9  Posted on 09/20/09 - 3:48 PM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 2975 Comments: 3 Joined: 11/04/05	Roberto, Plug the drains from inside the boat. The splashwell drains are 1 1/4 inches, the bilge and anchor locker are 1 inch. Drain Plug Edited by kamie on 09/20/09 - 3:49 PM
Joe Kriz	#10  Posted on 09/20/09 - 4:58 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	Hi Roberto, We can see from your original bottom paint line that the boat now sits a little lower than it used to with the old Mercury and the Honda kicker. 100 pounds more on the transom will change the way almost any boat sits in the water.
JohnnyCW	#11  Posted on 09/20/09 - 5:43 PM
Member Posts: 684 Comments: 0 Joined: 08/16/09	The splash well drains on my Outrage 17 are always below the water. A little water in the splash well has never bothered me. My Outrage 17 has the storage boxes in the back and the fuel tank across the back just in front of the splash well. The fuel tank location is a poor design IMO and I can understand why that layout didn't last long. Putting 26 gallons of gasoline right at the transom is a lot of poorly distributed weight. My old Mercury 115 was about 330 pounds. My new Etec is supposed to be about 375 pounds. A Yamaha 115 4-stroke was another option I looked into but I really didn't want to add that much more weight to my transom since the vessel already squats at the stern. The Yamaha was over 400 pounds, ugh! I'm relocating my batteries to the center console for the Etec re-power. Should help quit a bit.
Doug V	#12  Posted on 09/20/09 - 6:33 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 340 Comments: 3 Joined: 09/21/05	A splashwell is made to have water in it- that's why it's called a "splashwell". Water goes in, water goes out. I believe my boat was designed to have as much as 600 pounds on the transom (twin V-4's) with a total horsepower of 240, but was also designed for a 90 horsepower motor to plane the boat with a light load. The splashwell depth could not be designed to be perfect for all the different combinations of weight on the transom possible. I have an old Suzuki 200 on my Outrage 22. I also have a 15 horsepower kicker on the transom. Both batteries are in the splashwell. I always have water in the splashwell. Once I push the throttle a little past idle, the 2 quarts or so of water that is in the splashwll is instantly gone-no problem. Water in the splashwell is the least of my worries. Doug
Barryg	#13  Posted on 09/20/09 - 6:45 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 242 Comments: 1 Joined: 04/01/08	Roberto , I use my main Engine for trolling. THat is why I love my four stroke , no need for the kicker. I can throw out a drift sock if the speed is a concern.BG
Joe Kriz	#14  Posted on 09/20/09 - 7:50 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	Barry, I have no idea what the difference is between trolling with a 2 stroke or a 4 stroke large main engine... A drift sock or bucket can get in the way of fishing if you have a large salmon on. A kicker is used for many things. 1. A backup engine for getting you out of trouble or back home. 2. A trolling motor so you save putting on many hours on the main, larger engine. I troll 8 hours a day sometimes on my kicker, this saves the main engine from all those hours... Save fuel too no matter what large engine you have. 3. Trolling extremely slow for some types of fishing... I would not be without a kicker motor even if it just sat there. However, for the reasons listed above, I use kicker more than I use the main engine. Makes sense in more ways than one. I have always recommended anyone that has a boat to have a kicker even if they have Sea Tow or something similar. What if Sea Tow is busy and you are heading for the rocks?
HarleyFXDL	#15  Posted on 09/21/09 - 10:29 AM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 917 Comments: 30 Joined: 07/24/07	That is how much water is in my splashwell and I have a 150 2S Johnson! Kevin 1988 11' Super Sport, 1987 Johnson 15hp. If you think education is expensive, try ignorance "Vegetarian - old Indian word for bad fisherman."
surfer	#16  Posted on 09/21/09 - 12:46 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 8 Comments: 1 Joined: 08/22/09	Thank you for the answers. I have the same opinion than Joe about the Kicker, it's always useful. Besides a new bilge pump I'm thinking to remake the stern seat and the reversible pilot seat frames with very light materials. Next year I must to replace the covers, It's an excellent opportunity. Now there's a very heavy marine plywood. Someone use a other light material? Surfer Outrage 18 2009 Honda BF 150 HP V-TEC - 2008 BF 10 Hp Honda kicker
kamie	#17  Posted on 09/21/09 - 3:19 PM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 2975 Comments: 3 Joined: 11/04/05	Surfer, It is hard to find a better material, pound for pound to make the stern seat out of. If you use starboard or something similar, it will be as heavy and way more costly. I would install the bilge pump and not worry too much. I have taken to removing my stern seat unless I plan to have company. it can be a pain to take in and out, but loosing the extra 100# makes getting on to the jetdock easier Almost too easy as twice this year I have pulled up almost ot the winch post.