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Repowering 18' Outrage with 150 E-TEC
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| firstoffshore |
Posted on 04/10/09 - 5:50 PM
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Just dropped off the boat tonight at the Evinrude dealer to repower with E-TEC. After many years of boating exclusively with Mercury, I would have never guessed that I would make the big switch on a classic Boston Whaler project. Does anyone have any Outrage repower tips to pass on during the rigging/set-up process?
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| ioptfm |
Posted on 04/10/09 - 6:08 PM
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I can't give you any insight into the Outrage, but I can gurantee you that you are going to be amazed with that ETEC! 
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| romd133 |
Posted on 04/10/09 - 6:24 PM
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I just dropped mine off also.. I think we will be very happy customers
D ave
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| firstoffshore |
Posted on 04/10/09 - 7:12 PM
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romd133 wrote:
I just dropped mine off also.. I think we will be very happy customers
D ave
I have enjoyed seeing your progress; you project definately influenced my decision. Your boat is amazing.
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| JamieK |
Posted on 04/11/09 - 5:54 AM
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I just got mine back about two weeks ago, 1987 Outrage 18. I went with the 130 E-TEC. I'm beyond anxiously waiting to get it in the water. Congrats ...!!!!
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The things that they consider the basics over on the Etec forum are to make sure you have a battery with sufficient CCA capacity for your engine (Etec's need the cranking power), and no wing nuts on the battery. Correct size fuel line, and to be sure the engine is set to optimal height and propped to reach the optimal RPM. Lots of good info HERE You'd be surprised at how important but overlooked this is, and will make a significant difference in how your engine performs. I know it did with mine.
Looking forward to hearing how you guys like your engines, my 200 HO is a powerhouse with rock solid idle and super easy starting.
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| whalerman |
Posted on 04/11/09 - 12:39 PM
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HI, I own a 1990 outrage 19 and repowered 2 years ago with a 150 etec saltwater sieres.You will be amazed at the power differanc!! Make sure fuel lines are 3/8 and that the battery is at least 850cca. Fuel water filter, I use racor, has a clear bowl. Also make sure that the cables for throttle/clutch are BRP!!!!!! There is a differance and will affect control. Prop wise I'm turning a Viper 17" pitch which I am able to see 5400 wot and about 50 mph, 2 people 1/2 tank fuel bimmini up. Also use the XD 100 oil. At 3000 to 3500 rpm is where I cruise at, excelent fuel/ oil economy. Post pics and how she does!!! Good luck with her! cheers,Whalerman
PS the cavitation plate is 1 3/4" above the keel
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| firstoffshore |
Posted on 04/11/09 - 8:03 PM
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Thanks for all of the replys...very good information for my project. JAMIEK, Derwd24, Whalerman we need pictures.
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| firstoffshore |
Posted on 04/11/09 - 8:22 PM
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whalerman wrote:
HI, I own a 1990 outrage 19 and repowered 2 years ago with a 150 etec saltwater sieres.You will be amazed at the power differanc!! Make sure fuel lines are 3/8 and that the battery is at least 850cca. Fuel water filter, I use racor, has a clear bowl. Also make sure that the cables for throttle/clutch are BRP!!!!!! There is a differance and will affect control. Prop wise I'm turning a Viper 17" pitch which I am able to see 5400 wot and about 50 mph, 2 people 1/2 tank fuel bimmini up. Also use the XD 100 oil. At 3000 to 3500 rpm is where I cruise at, excelent fuel/ oil economy. Post pics and how she does!!! Good luck with her! cheers,Whalerman
PS the cavitation plate is 1 3/4" above the keel
Was it difficult to determine the optimum location of the cavitation plate or is this where you set it the first time?
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 04/11/09 - 8:26 PM
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firstoffshore,
I don't see where he mentions what hole up he has mounted his motor.
Most installations start with one hole up. That would mean the bolt would be installed in the 2nd hold from the top of the engine bracket.
With testing of different props etc., then maybe the second hole up meaning the bolt would be in the 3rd hole in the engine bracket.
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| firstoffshore |
Posted on 04/11/09 - 8:54 PM
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Joe Kriz wrote:
firstoffshore,
I don't see where he mentions what hole up he has mounted his motor.
Most installations start with one hole up. That would mean the bolt would be installed in the 2nd hold from the top of the engine bracket.
With testing of different props etc., then maybe the second hole up meaning the bolt would be in the 3rd hole in the engine bracket.
You are right Joe...that would be very good information to know. In your opinion, do you think my total weight would be about the same as his later model 19? I am trying to determine if I should start with a Viper 17" as well with the goal of achieving optimal RPM.
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| whalerman |
Posted on 04/12/09 - 6:49 AM
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HI ALL!! HAPPY EASTER!!
Sorry I forgot to mention the bolt location. I'm on the last hole down, meaning I cannot raise up any further. Oil tank is 1.5 gal. mounted stbd side splashwell as far out as will permit, battery is located next to it closer to centerline. Had to do this because of swim steps on the port, easy in and out!!! Steering is teleflex twinn cable I also have the stern seat and leaning post. Been working on her two years as buget permits and love to go out when ever I can. 1st whaler was a 13 sport 1969 40 hp omc, 2nd was 1982 17 sport with 115 hp omc, that one was FUN!!.Will miss the Ohio River this summer, worked on a towboat , did all 985 miles many times.
cheers, whalerman
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| firstoffshore |
Posted on 04/12/09 - 8:53 AM
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whalerman wrote:
HI ALL!! HAPPY EASTER!!
Sorry I forgot to mention the bolt location. I'm on the last hole down, meaning I cannot raise up any further. Oil tank is 1.5 gal. mounted stbd side splashwell as far out as will permit, battery is located next to it closer to centerline. Had to do this because of swim steps on the port, easy in and out!!! Steering is teleflex twinn cable I also have the stern seat and leaning post. Been working on her two years as buget permits and love to go out when ever I can. 1st whaler was a 13 sport 1969 40 hp omc, 2nd was 1982 17 sport with 115 hp omc, that one was FUN!!.Will miss the Ohio River this summer, worked on a towboat , did all 985 miles many times.
cheers, whalerman
whalerman,
Thank you very much for the bolt location. I will also want a stearn seat eventually. It sounds like my set-up will be very similar to yours. Have you always had the same prop or did you have to dial-in through trial and error?
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| Derwd24 |
Posted on 04/12/09 - 9:49 AM
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This is what I used to determine proper engine height and correct propping:
http://www.veradoclub.com/smf/index.p...opic=137.0
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| whalerman |
Posted on 04/12/09 - 10:16 AM
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HI!!
Am lucky to have a master tech at the shop that I have been using. He set the height from day one. EXPERIENCE pays! 1st prop was sst 19" pitch,too much,rpm was low. Next was the 17"pitch viper. Stayed with that one.Yours,engine rpm, may need to reach higher rpm range. BRP raised the rpm scale on the newer Etec's. Check Etec forum though. These two sites have a WEALTH of top info. THANKS WC!! Hope to post pics of mine soon.
Whalerman
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| firstoffshore |
Posted on 04/12/09 - 1:49 PM
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Thanks Derwd24...very helpful.
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| kamie |
Posted on 04/12/09 - 1:50 PM
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firstoffshore,
be aware that adding a stern seat adds about 100# to the boat. I assume that you will be adding it to carry some folks who will be sitting on it. It will change the holeshot of the boat. Once you dial in the prop, I suggest you toss a could 40# bags of sand on your desk, just to see how the prop does with the additional weight.
Good luck with the boat.
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| firstoffshore |
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whalerman wrote:
HI!!
Am lucky to have a master tech at the shop that I have been using. He set the height from day one. EXPERIENCE pays! 1st prop was sst 19" pitch,too much,rpm was low. Next was the 17"pitch viper. Stayed with that one.Yours,engine rpm, may need to reach higher rpm range. BRP raised the rpm scale on the newer Etec's. Check Etec forum though. These two sites have a WEALTH of top info. THANKS WC!! Hope to post pics of mine soon.
Whalerman
Thanks whalerman...good information.
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| firstoffshore |
Posted on 04/12/09 - 1:56 PM
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kamie wrote:
firstoffshore,
be aware that adding a stern seat adds about 100# to the boat. I assume that you will be adding it to carry some folks who will be sitting on it. It will change the holeshot of the boat. Once you dial in the prop, I suggest you toss a could 40# bags of sand on your desk, just to see how the prop does with the additional weight.
Good luck with the boat.
Good point and an excellent way to simulate the extra weight. I'm still undecided if I want to add the stearn seat and all of that extra weight aft.
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| kamie |
Posted on 04/12/09 - 2:03 PM
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On the plus side, when you have friends that want a nice cruze on the river, it's really comfy. It does add weight to the stern. I leave it out for early season fishing, put it in when I have company and for mid summer cruzing and then take it out in the fall. I do have both an RPS and a 162qt cooler, so no shortage of seats for the friends I fish with.
It also takes up stern space for landing fish. If you have two to three people fishing you may need all the open gunnal space, assuming you actually catch fish. We have a tendency not too 
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