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1986 13ft Whaler Sport with optional back rest
falcon	#1  Posted on 04/03/09 - 3:58 PM
Member Posts: 6 Comments: 0 Joined: 01/24/06	I am installing the interior that I received from Mike at Nautical Lumber. The boat is freshly painted and all the holes where gel- coated/filled to repair screw damage from the previous owner. Does anyone have (or know where I can find) the interior installation drawing/instructions? I am looking for seat location dimensions, screw locations, screw sizes etc.? I downloaded the following drawing from continuous wave and the dimensions don't quite fit the 1986. http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/13/graphics/13-foot762x408.jpeg Thanks in advance, Andre
NauticalLumber	#2  Posted on 04/04/09 - 11:52 AM
Member Posts: 160 Comments: 1 Joined: 01/09/08	Can anyone help Andre out with measurements?? thanks, Mike
kamie	#3  Posted on 04/04/09 - 2:30 PM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 2975 Comments: 3 Joined: 11/04/05	Andre A lot of folks have moved their interior forward for better ride. Try starting with the back edge of the thwart seat 42 inches from the inside of the transom. That puts the entire interior about 5-6 inches forward of normal, should give you better ride. If you want more room in the front, shift the entire interior back toward the stern a bit.
falcon	#4  Posted on 04/04/09 - 8:09 PM
Member Posts: 6 Comments: 0 Joined: 01/24/06	The interior is installed and looks wonderful including the optional back rest and rails, my thanks to Mike for his beautiful woodworking and finish. I used stainless size 10 oval head screws with finish washers courtesy of our local hardware store (Travis hardware over 100 years old). The quandary I was having came down to a 1/2 inch difference between the older and new seat clamps. I compensated for the difference by blending the delta. i apologize but I work on the Space Shuttle Program and 1/2 inch differences are unheard of, just had to get a grip and remember it's a boat! Mike can't wait for the console this week, I'm sure it will look like "Whaler" jewelry. Thanks, Andre
falcon	#5  Posted on 04/04/09 - 8:15 PM
Member Posts: 6 Comments: 0 Joined: 01/24/06	Thanks for the help Edited by falcon on 04/04/09 - 8:17 PM
Joe Kriz	#6  Posted on 04/04/09 - 8:18 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	falcon, Glad you got a grip. I used to work in the forging industry where plus or minus .001 thousands of an inch was the tolerance... 1/2 of an inch wasn't even in the books...... Many parts we made were for the Space Shuttle...
Binkie	#7  Posted on 04/04/09 - 8:29 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 2012 Comments: 0 Joined: 12/19/05	i apologize but I work on the Space Shuttle Program and 1/2 inch differences are unheard of, just had to get a grip and remember it's a boat! I would say that there is slightly more tolerances allowed in boats than in space shuttles, but not 1/2" But at least the Marine industry has their adhesives down to a science. What is the name of the stuff you guys use to glue the tiles on. Tile mastic for floors? Rich
falcon	#8  Posted on 04/04/09 - 8:34 PM
Member Posts: 6 Comments: 0 Joined: 01/24/06	Joe, Understand and appreciate all your hard work to keep us flying, after all the Shuttle Manned Space Flight Program belongs to every American. Just can't fathom the current plan of handing over our national asset to the Russians. Andre
falcon	#9  Posted on 04/04/09 - 8:54 PM
Member Posts: 6 Comments: 0 Joined: 01/24/06	Rich, You can get some information on the Orbiter thermal protection system here: http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/technology/sts-newsref/sts_sys.html Andre Edited by falcon on 04/04/09 - 8:55 PM
MW	#10  Posted on 04/04/09 - 10:56 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 1827 Comments: 10 Joined: 01/08/06	We saw the space station go over head a few week's ago, THAT WAS COOL ! I did notice some sloppy work as the "Tolerance's" were off by at least .002 thousand's of an inch.. That was "US" waiving. Edited by MW on 04/04/09 - 11:00 PM Matt
NauticalLumber	#11  Posted on 04/05/09 - 6:23 AM
Member Posts: 160 Comments: 1 Joined: 01/09/08	... I don't want to jump to any conclusions on the comments made about the length of the side clamps being 1/2" off. However, this would be a good time to bring up the fact that Boston Whaler had many variances on the interior pieces when made. I have been collecting original interior pieces from customers for nearly a year & a half now. From 13'/15' consoles & side clamps to center consoles & hatches......some have small variances in size & not all plug holes are mathematically laid out & plugged with the grain going in the right direction. For the best results, I ask customers to send me their old interiors so we can duplicate them (if we do not already have an original set for a template) for the best fit. For the most part, we have all the original pieces to duplicate any interior. But once in awhile we come across someone who has a set of "original" clamps that are a 1/2" longer than the ones they received from us or a sport console that is 1" deeper than ours. By no means am I saying that Andre is complaining about his side clamps. I just thought this would be a good opportunity to share with the forum that the components made by BW had minor variances depending on when they were made & by whom. As always, Nautical Lumber will bend over backwards to make sure our clients are MORE than happy with our products. Regards, Mike Stennett
falcon	#12  Posted on 04/05/09 - 10:57 AM
Member Posts: 6 Comments: 0 Joined: 01/24/06	Mike, Your work is outstanding and I would recommend you to anyone who asks. The dimension comment was by no means meant to take away from the quality of your work, just an adjustment during the installation. You are right in saying that their are variations amongst Boston Whalers. After looking at several 13's, I found locations and spacing differed but where similar in fit, form, and function. These boats where built using line drawings and craftsman, giving them the personality and character that appeals to many of us here. I do not know of many boat brands which seem to outlast the test of time as the Boston Whaler. Thanks again for all your help, Andre
Joe Kriz	#13  Posted on 04/05/09 - 11:13 AM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	Mike, I definitely agree. There are variances in just about everything Whaler. For many of those that don't know, the vendor put a stamp on the bottom of most, if not all, of the wood pieces made back in that day. You can view some of those vendor stamps in some of the original drawings in the Download section. Whaler used more than one woodworker and or vendor at different times. Just when we think we have seen all of the variances, another one pops up. Different vendors, slightly different parts, and slightly different placement of parts.