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| hotdog7 |
Posted on 02/07/09 - 6:28 PM
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How should a float on trailer be set up?
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| ioptfm |
Posted on 02/07/09 - 7:53 PM
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hotdog7 wrote:
How should a float on trailer be set up?
What kind, size, etc of boat do you have?
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| kamie |
Posted on 02/08/09 - 7:42 AM
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For the classic whalers you should be using a roller trailer where the weight is on the keel. If your going to use a float-on trailer for a 25 then you need to make sure the boat will float as far up as possible at the ramps you use. I would not want to crank a 25 foot Outrage up onto a trailer with the resistance of bunks.
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| Doug V |
Posted on 02/08/09 - 8:28 AM
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Keel rollers carrying the load, with bunks balancing the boat is definatley a good set up.
Kamie is absolutely correct, you do not want to winch a boat like a 22 or 25 up a bunk only trailer. This means that you will be pretty limited to boat ramps that are steep enough to float the boat almost to the bow stop.
Once, before my trailer was set up properly, circumstances dictated that I did not have a high enough tide to load the boat on the steeper part of the ramp. I had enough water to get the boat to the trailer, but I had to winch it 2/3 of the way up the trailer. Luckily, the hand winch had 2 speeds. After snugging the boat against the bow stop, I thought I was about to have a heart attack.
Needless to say, I did not use the boat again until I had 8 keel rollers under it. I also replaced the muscle powered winch with a remote controlled electric winch.
The set up works very well now.
Doug
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| hotdog7 |
Posted on 02/08/09 - 5:12 PM
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I have put the boat on and off this trailer a few times and don't use the winch at all. I was thinking about adding some keel rollers. The bunks are under the chines but do interfere with the clamshell on the draines a little.
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| Binkie |
Posted on 02/09/09 - 5:27 AM
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Just drive the boat on the trailer. A which isn`t needed, or usually supplied. I did this for years. You can easily drive the boat off too, if its not deep enough to push it off.
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| jquigley |
Posted on 02/09/09 - 5:33 AM
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I don't know where hotdog is from but many ramps in the midwest have restrictions against power loading/unloading, is this an issue where you are from?
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| Binkie |
Posted on 02/09/09 - 7:47 PM
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Driving your boat onto the trailer with enough speed to carry it to the hook is not powerloading. Just takes enough speed and practice, and the trailer must be deep enough in the water. thats what the guide bars are for.
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| Binkie |
Posted on 02/09/09 - 7:47 PM
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Driving your boat onto the trailer with enough speed to carry it to the hook is not powerloading. Just takes enough speed and practice, and the trailer must be deep enough in the water. thats what the guide bars are for.
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| Phil T |
Posted on 02/09/09 - 8:10 PM
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Rich -
While I agree with what you are saying, I would caution you on that definition. I have been told by a few officials at ramps in ME, NH and MA that using the motor to load the boat in any way is considered power loading.
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| Binkie |
Posted on 02/10/09 - 4:34 AM
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Phil, I agree that on short ramps with dropoffs were the wheel will fall over, or very shallow ramps you will need to power load, but on most ramps you can coast the boat all the way on the trailer, or just pull it on with the bow line. I guess you can also install a winch and crank it up on the shallow ramps. Are float on trailers illegal to use on the ramps you mentioned.. I have never found that to be anywhere.
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| jquigley |
Posted on 02/10/09 - 5:55 AM
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Powerloading restrictions, from the way I understand them are to prevent erosion from prop wash around the concrete slabs due to the nature of the lake shores and bottoms. This is not to say it cannot be done safely if coasted in from a ways out, but then you have to consider no wakes 100' from shore in most cases, not to mention no wakes several hundred yards out from the ramp, and most ramps are not very steep.
In order to pull this off you would have to orchestrate a good many things, and have a pretty long tongue on the trailer and good nav skills to line it up and coast it in with the motor killed. (Pretty much no chance in wind and/or current.)
John
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| Phil T |
Posted on 02/10/09 - 6:28 AM
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Sorry to hijack the thread even more.
I have observed owners power load all types and sizes of boats with various types of trailers, float-on, keel roller, wobble roller etc.
Restrictions on power loading are prevalent in the Northeast for the reasons J stated above.
Regardless of whether one has a float-on or keel roller based trailer, having the right length tongue (longer than OEM) and trailer guide rollers will allow easy loading at shallow and/or steep ramps.
BTW - Did I miss Hotdog stating what model of boat he has?
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