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Johnson control box help
jsb91010	#1  Posted on 10/03/08 - 4:36 PM
Member Posts: 128 Comments: 0 Joined: 05/01/08	ok guys...I have a 1977 35hp johnson, and I bought it with no controls...I bought a control box and it appears the control box is newer and has more features like trim/tilt/gauges wires...I connected the wires from my engine harness to the matching color on the box and it will turn it over once, then not again...almost like it's a short or something, any ideas? Also...is there a kit i can use so i can use post 1979 control cables on my '77 engine?
Joe Kriz	#2  Posted on 10/03/08 - 4:45 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	jsb, Take a look at this wiring diagram for the engine harness. http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...rowstart=1 What type and brand of control box did you buy? http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...icle_id=56 Edited by Joe Kriz on 10/03/08 - 7:52 PM
jsb91010	#3  Posted on 10/03/08 - 7:22 PM
Member Posts: 128 Comments: 0 Joined: 05/01/08	that first link didn't work...and I bought johnson control box, that juding bye the control cable style is post 1979...it's is what i would say is a side mount control box with tilt/trim.
Joe Kriz	#4  Posted on 10/03/08 - 7:53 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	I fixed the first link. Sorry about that. http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...rowstart=1
jsb91010	#5  Posted on 10/03/08 - 8:32 PM
Member Posts: 128 Comments: 0 Joined: 05/01/08	WOW joe...THANKS man i looked at the wiring diagram seen what color wire does what...found out I didn't have the "starter" wire connected to anything...connected it to the only wire that wouldn't match any other one and fired right up!!! thanks a bunch man! any ideas about me being able to use it on the older engine? is there a control cable kit or soemthing?
Joe Kriz	#6  Posted on 10/03/08 - 8:37 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	There are control cable kits. You would have to contact your BRP dealer. You might also consider changing to newer style cables. Again, check with your dealer for the engine ends or kits.
jsb91010	#7  Posted on 10/03/08 - 8:41 PM
Member Posts: 128 Comments: 0 Joined: 05/01/08	OK, my control box has the ends with the holes in it. But according to johnson site it needs the other ind which is just a straight wire type. Really I just need a kit for the engine to allow for the new style cable to be used
Joe Kriz	#8  Posted on 10/03/08 - 9:56 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	That is correct. If you buy new cables, which is a good idea if you have old ones, then the new cables should fit your new control box. Then all you would possibly need is the adapters for the engine end if necessary.
jsb91010	#9  Posted on 10/03/08 - 11:00 PM
Member Posts: 128 Comments: 0 Joined: 05/01/08	I would have to buy the post '79 cables because that's what the control box needs...I am having trouble finxing a kit for those cables to allow them on my engine...
Binkie	#10  Posted on 10/04/08 - 6:12 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 2012 Comments: 0 Joined: 12/19/05	On my `99 Johnson 25, Iused a control box from the `50`s, ( 2 handle box with shift and throttle handles and no starter key) I hooked up a remote key in the dash, and everything worked well. It was a very simple hookup, rich Rich
jsb91010	#11  Posted on 10/04/08 - 8:33 AM
Member Posts: 128 Comments: 0 Joined: 05/01/08	yeah binkie...yours is "backwards" of what I need...Im trying to do NEWER box, with OLD engine...I can't seem to find that connection kit..I have seen the kit that your talking about to convert a new engine to the old style, but not vice versa?
seahorse	#12  Posted on 10/04/08 - 4:43 PM
Member Posts: 103 Comments: 0 Joined: 05/21/06	If you have the post 1979 cables, the adapter kit for the 25-35hp motors is part #173617
jsb91010	#13  Posted on 10/04/08 - 6:33 PM
Member Posts: 128 Comments: 0 Joined: 05/01/08	thanks guys...no kit needed, all I needed was the clips that hold the cable on...got one of the clips and it works awesome, had to order the other 3 parts should be here next week! THanks for you guys help