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problems with my ETEC!!!! say its not true!!
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| duf |
Posted on 08/30/08 - 6:10 PM
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Well, went out again today and had a steller trip offshore (called for blue northern and texas whaler in case they were in the neighborhood) but basically cruised out to the first set of oil rigs about 10 miles offshore with no problems, then came back in, hauled butt on the intercostal, then into the canals. Sure enough, was crusin along, and my overtemp alarm came back on. Now i just had both my water pump and thermostate replaced while doing my first servicing to the motor, so i'm a little bit of a loss why its overheating. The pump is pushing plenty of water through, and my new water pressure guage is giving me 7to 8 PSI at about 7-8 hundred RPM's so not sure what the issue is. Once i throttle back from barely above idle , the alarm goes off, and i finished my trip no problems. Motor is still under warantee, but its irritating to have any alarms go off anytime when everything seems to be right, and serviced to a T.
more to come i'm sure 
Duf 
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 08/30/08 - 6:30 PM
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duf,
Just to get things straight....
Overtemp alarm?
Is this the "HOT" warning on your gauge?
Just trying to make sure as the gauges I know of show "HOT"......
Your gauges may be a little different than I have seen....
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| ioptfm |
Posted on 08/30/08 - 7:17 PM
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Duf, this probably isn't the same thing that is happening on yours, but I will pass it on anyway. On several occassions I have hit a large wake and a pretty good bounce and my alarms has gone off. The only way I could stop it was to turn the motor off and then restart.
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| PaulTarwater |
Posted on 08/30/08 - 8:06 PM
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Duf, the exact same thing happened to our guide's new 200 ETEC 2 weekends ago in Port O'Connor. The alarm would sound and he would drop it to idle for about 5 seconds, then the alarm would cease and he would accelerate again with no problems. Don't know if it was really overheating or the alarm is getting a false reading somehow but it is definitely irritating. The motor is new so he has yet to take it in for a check up. He said that never happened on his ETEC 250. Keep us posted and I will do the same if I hear any news from him. Paul
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| Derwd24 |
Posted on 08/30/08 - 8:43 PM
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Duf,
Have you had the latest updates installed? I believe this was a problem on some of the large block Etec due to the software temp threshold for the alarm being set too low. If I remember correctly one of the updates raised the threshold number enough to prevent false overheat alarms from triggering.
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| duf |
Posted on 08/31/08 - 5:27 AM
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Joe, the guage actually says ovtemp alarm, or something like that and of course the warning alarm goes off. Nothing says hot.
No, wasn't jumping any wakes or anything, was actually in a no wake zone cruisin at about 7-9 hundred RPM's.
My thought is the same on possibly being set to low. I've had it go off about 5 times now, and each time after dropping to an idle where your actually getting less pressure and water through the motor, the warning drops off and i can push back up to whatever speed i want with no immediate repeats, and sometimes nothing again for hours.
I'll be calling my mechanic first thing tues, and i'm guessing taking the boat in by the end of the week. Good news is all the other goodies i put on my boat including my new lowrance 27C works like a charm. My swim plateform is looking good too!!
Duf
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| scrimshaw |
Posted on 08/31/08 - 5:48 AM
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I feel your pain. Maybe the weather ?
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| duf |
Posted on 08/31/08 - 3:23 PM
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I don't know Jim, but it sure is irritating....... But the good news is, i had a good time going out with John (Texas Whaler) and meeting up with Rob (Blue Northern) for cocktails after our fishing trip today on his 25!!
Duf
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| Derwd24 |
Posted on 08/31/08 - 3:54 PM
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Duf,
I'd be interested to get your take on the 25 compared to the 22' we have. I've only seen the 25's on trailer, never been on one in the water. Did you feel like it was noticably more boat, or fairly equivalent to the 22's?
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| Doug V |
Posted on 08/31/08 - 8:09 PM
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I am not sure how Duf feels about the 25, but....
My brother in law has a 25 Outrage with a 275 Merc. It is definately more boat. Brawny may be a good way to describe them.
With both of us headed home in a mean chop, me in my 22, and him in his 25, he can walk away from me.
Doug
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| duf |
Posted on 09/01/08 - 5:30 AM
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Texas Whalers boat is a fine rig. We went about 30 miles offshore and were probably feeling some of Gustov's wave action as it was initially pretty knarley as we made our way out to a depth of about 140 ft. We both commented on how the boat shrunk, but it was a very comfortable boat considering the waves we were in, and i only got sprayed once, and that was because of the wind action. On the way back in, the waves dropped some and we were able to cruise in at 20 MPH or so.
All in all, i would say they are very similar, with the exception being the obvious, bigger is better in a anykind of wave action! It is amazing how the extra 3 feet makes quite a difference in size.
Duf
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| Derwd24 |
Posted on 09/01/08 - 9:56 PM
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Good to know, thanks for the input. Got caught in some unexpected 4-5' with kids aboard and it got me thinking about the 25'.
Good luck at the dealer Duf, hopefully it's a simple s/w upgrade.
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| duf |
Posted on 09/02/08 - 6:29 AM
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Already talked to the dealer, and he's going to jump right on it while i wait as soon as i can get the boat to him, which will probably not be until Friday.
If you unexpectedly got into some 4-5 footers in the 25, you wouldn't give a care!
Oh, and i didn't mention that Texas Whalers twin Yammy 150 setup is VERY nice for a 25!
Duf
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| TexasOutrage |
Posted on 09/02/08 - 7:13 AM
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Duf,
Thanks for the compliments on my 25'.
Hope your engine problem can be resolved. If they are having trouble sorting it out....ask about a trade on a pair of 115's for your 22'. Offshore, that 115 kicker is nice.
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 09/02/08 - 10:33 AM
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duf,
Has your engine had all the updates?
I would give your serial number to your local Evinrude dealer and ask them to look it up.
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| duf |
Posted on 09/02/08 - 11:05 AM
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Joe, it was the first thing i did when i purchased Raggedy Ann, so i'm thinking it may not be a software issue (also the fact i've used it over a year without any alarms) and i did tons of cruisin in the canals with no high idling issues. However it could be problems with the sensor itself.
Duf
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 09/02/08 - 11:54 AM
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duf,
You still might check with your dealer again.
Sometimes the owner is NOT notified of new updates... This happens...
You probably already know this but all the dealer does is put your serial number in the BRP computer database and it brings up all your engine information.
Engine hours since last checked, all updates or updates that are needed, etc....
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| Derwd24 |
Posted on 09/02/08 - 12:01 PM
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And you may want to look into purchasing the diag cable and software, you can then plug in a laptop and see for yourself what the highest temp was on both banks, as well as what updates have been installed, etc. Sometimes things get lost in the shuffle, good to go right to the source and see what's going on.
I'm in the process of looking around for the cable and s/w and will let you know what I find if you're interested.
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| MidcoastMike |
Posted on 09/02/08 - 12:43 PM
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Quick google search located the following ETEC diag software and cable at Bluewater Boats:
http://bluewaterboat.com/software_fic...t_etec.htm
I'm not sure if that is the only option...
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| duf |
Posted on 09/02/08 - 2:52 PM
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Dave/Lubber definately interested in any info on software etc, more info is always a good thing.
Joe, plan on being off friday and taking my boat to the dealer where he said while i wait, is making room for me to hook it up to the computer and see what we have. In the meantime, will scan incoming info to see what i have to do to accomplish my own dianogstics as i have a laptop, so its only a matter of getting the software and educating myself.
Duf
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