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Outboard weight on a V-20 Outrage
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| 28sstony |
Posted on 08/12/08 - 5:33 AM
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Ive been shopping around for power for my newly aquired V-20 and was told by a Honda guru that putting too heavy of a motor on this boat could cause water reversion issues. While I am familiar with reversion on an I/O, I am clueless when it comes to outboards. What would be an accptable weight to hang on the back of this boat?
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| Mike |
Posted on 08/12/08 - 5:51 AM
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I have a Guardian 20 with twin 70 Johnsons. The motors weigh approx 512lbs (256 each). A newer (2007) Evinrude 200 weighs less than that - 509lbs. On the heavy end a 2007 Honda 200 weighs around 600 lbs.
Here are some photos of the boat. Notice the static trim - it's fine and that's with 2 batteries and 2 oil tanks at the spashwell.
Guardian 20
I wasn't sure what "water reversion" is. A cursory web search seems to indicate this is an issue experienced by inboard boats. Can anyone add info about this?
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| Mike |
Posted on 08/12/08 - 5:55 AM
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The pictures of the boat when it was still a St. Paul Fire boat show it riding a little low at the aft. In those pics there was a pump/generator in addition to the batteries and oil tanks.
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| kamie |
Posted on 08/12/08 - 6:23 AM
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28sstony,
what is on the boat or was on the boat for power? As a general rule, with the older hulls you want to stay as light as possible. I assume we are talking about a V20 - 19' 10" with a 7' 5" beam and rated for 180HP max. Were you looking for a single outboard or twins? I would go with the 175HP E-Tec which at 427# which gets you close to a max HP and is still light, you can go also go with the 200HP E-Tec if you want to over power for the same weight. From what I have heard, the V20's were fairly light hulls, similar to the 18 Outrages and really fly without a lot of HP. As a compare, the Honda 150HP is 485# and 25 less HP.
As important as the Outboard is, what dealer support do you have around? If the only guy within 100 miles sells Honda, that is what I would go with. No matter what engine you put on there, there will be updates, tweeks and maintenance that require a dealer. You don't want to be dragging the boat 100's of miles all the time.
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| 28sstony |
Posted on 08/12/08 - 6:31 AM
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kamie wrote:
28sstony,
what is on the boat or was on the boat for power? As a general rule, with the older hulls you want to stay as light as possible. I assume we are talking about a V20 - 19' 10" with a 7' 5" beam and rated for 180HP max. Were you looking for a single outboard or twins? I would go with the 175HP E-Tec which at 427# which gets you close to a max HP and is still light, you can go also go with the 200HP E-Tec if you want to over power for the same weight. From what I have heard, the V20's were fairly light hulls, similar to the 18 Outrages and really fly without a lot of HP. As a compare, the Honda 150HP is 485# and 25 less HP.
As important as the Outboard is, what dealer support do you have around? If the only guy within 100 miles sells Honda, that is what I would go with. No matter what engine you put on there, there will be updates, tweeks and maintenance that require a dealer. You don't want to be dragging the boat 100's of miles all the time.
You are correct on the hull, around here there is practically one of every make outboard dealer imaginable. I'm really looking for an older motor between 150 and 200hp Looking to spend $4k or less. I wont be using it a whole lot so spending a ton of cash on a newer motor is going to be out of the question.
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| egerrity |
Posted on 08/12/08 - 6:39 AM
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"water reversion"? does he mean that the boat will not be self bailing anymore? Water will come in to a certain point?
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| kamie |
Posted on 08/12/08 - 9:48 AM
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If you looking to go used, then get newer versions of what was on there, assuming you have controls and gauges already. That way you won't have to swap those out and spend more money.
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| wrangler |
Posted on 08/12/08 - 11:18 AM
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I looked it up, mostly on inboard engines, water comes back up the tailpipe and into the engine causing failures. Usually happens at idle speeds. They say to raise the tailpipe above the waterline or angle it to prevent a backflow.
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| arthureld |
Posted on 08/13/08 - 1:20 AM
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I would recommend keeping the weight down in the back of a V20. They are a bit rear heavy compared to the later Outrage 20.
I have a V20 and like the ride much better when I shift weight forward.
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| 28sstony |
Posted on 08/15/08 - 5:22 AM
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Im looking at an 1990 Evinrude 200 looper weight is said to be 480lbs, is that going to be too much weight for this hull?
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| Mike |
Posted on 08/15/08 - 6:56 AM
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It'll be too much weight if you're carrying around a piano in the back.
It won't be if you have a standard setup with perhaps a couple batteries and the oil tanks. That's considering that the boat doesn't have excess water built up in the hull.
As I said before I have over 500 lbs hanging off the back of my 20. My dad had a 20 with the Whaler Drive and twin 100 Johnson GT's - No problem.
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