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Posted on 06/06/08 - 12:26 PM
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Just wondering if anyone knew when whaler started manufacturing gray whalers and how much different the lay up on the keel and such would have been for a cpd hull back then, as opposed to a so called regular outrage. I have a 1976 19 footer.
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Posted on 06/06/08 - 12:55 PM
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If I'm not mistaken, the true Gray Colored Whalers were and still are Mfg for the government such as DNR, etc.
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| Phil T |
Posted on 06/06/08 - 2:00 PM
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For more information on Whaler's commercial and government division, see http://www.brunswickcgboats.com/
Several of the classic hull designs are still used.
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| Phil T |
Posted on 06/06/08 - 4:08 PM
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Bob is correct.
The hulls have added fiberglass layups, all the hardware is heavy duty stuff. These boats are very beefy and designed especially for commercial and military use (i.e. abused 24/7)
While designed for commercial/military, they are available to consumers. They are made to order and are available through CPD directly, not via a whaler dealer.
With these features, they also cost a great deal more.
I know this since a member or two of CW ordering one several years ago.
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Posted on 06/06/08 - 5:25 PM
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Actually you have to order them thru a whaler dealer but they can be ordered. The issue is, that not many dealers will order them. They do cost a whole lot more than the standard variety boat and everything is ala cart.
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| Bake |
Posted on 06/06/08 - 6:02 PM
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I new it was a navy boat. It still had USN on the side when I got it. I had heard before that the glass was laid up a little thicker I was just wondering how much more heavy it might be. I see of talk about weighing the boat to look for water. I would think extra glass alone could add 100 pounds or so to this hull. Thanks for the input guys.
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Posted on 06/06/08 - 6:23 PM
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The Navy is still running Whalers but now with 200's.....70's are a little too rinky dink for the U.S. Navy!!
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Posted on 06/06/08 - 7:37 PM
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We have a 22 Guardian in our Family and it truly is a Monster of a boat over the standard 22 Outrage I used to own. The ride quality of the Guardian is much superior because of not only the extra weight it fuel but also the extra weight in Fiberglass and the increased rigidity from the extra glass. Our 22 has the upgraded transom option allowing for twin Merc 2.5l V6 150's. The boat will get up and run 36 - 38mph cruise in 3'+ great lakes seas with ease. My old 22 Outrage cruised at 30mph in 1' - 2' seas. Any larger seas and it began to become a harsh ride and I would have to throttle back a bit.
I do know the exact whaler specs on lay up thickness however, most of the areas on my 22 Outrage were about 1/4" or less with about 1/2' '- 3/4" on the keel. The Guardian is at least double that. The hull sides are 1/2" - 3/4" and the keel is 1 1/4" +.
Here is a link to the images of the boat. It was purchased sight unseen back in Dec 2005 by my father off of GSAauctions.gov. It was a big risk and one that with a bit of work paid off.
If I can give any advise about purchasing a vessel from government auction it would be expect the worst. PERIOD. These vessels are / were never cared for in any sort of fashion at all. The are abused way beyond any stretch of what could considered neglect. They are run hard and put away bruised and smoking. But that is what these hulls were made to do. So even though they may be beat up they are still very usable with some work and a lot of fun to go out and run hard.
One of the cool things with these hulls is everyone thinks you are the either military, DNR, Coast Guard, or the Cops. Some times even the coasties have done a double take or a turn around drive by to I.D. Once I was running north on Lake Michigan and over the course of 10 Miles ran down a large Sea Ray on running on plane. Once I got to less than a 1/4 mile he came off plane, came to a stop, then left the helm to come to the stern to be boarded. I passed at about 36 mph and gave a wave. He slowly returned the way and got back on plane.
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Posted on 06/07/08 - 8:20 AM
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bake,
In 1976 there was no Boston Whaler CPD. That division of Boston Whaler was not set up until 1983. Whaler did, however, already have a long history of producing work boats for the military and commercial applications.
In 1976 a 19 foot hull produced to "Workboat Specifications" had an additional 210 pounds of 'glass and resin.
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| Bake |
Posted on 06/07/08 - 3:27 PM
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Jeff, That is quite a nice looking collection of whaler's you have there. Tom,
That is what I was wondering about. The Navy plate had her lisited as a 20' utility boat. When she see's the water again the gray will be covered so I guess her thick skin will be our little secret.
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