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| jollyrog305 |
Posted on 03/31/08 - 6:27 AM
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Anyone know of a product, or have a home made solution, to prevent chafing/rubbing of dock lines against engine cowlings. I bought a product to prevent chafing of lines, but it is more for where the lines run through hawse pipes, etc. I was thinking of visiting my local equestrian supply store and buy some fleece cinch covers. Thoughts?
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| Binkie |
Posted on 03/31/08 - 9:31 AM
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Would a piece of garden hose work?
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| Noontide |
Posted on 03/31/08 - 12:58 PM
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Sounds to me like what you need is something to protect the engine cowling. Whatever you cover the lines with will still chafe the cowlin.
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| Yiger |
Posted on 03/31/08 - 2:19 PM
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Fire hose works well. You might be able to get a few feet of an old unused hose from your local fire department. We used to use this stuff in college and it lasted very well. The historical thing to use is a piece of leather. It probably works the best and it looks nice too.
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| jollyrog305 |
Posted on 03/31/08 - 2:35 PM
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What I need is exactly that - something that will cover the ropes so they won’t scratch the cowlings. Mercury sells very nice covers for the Verados, but they are a bit pricey for 2. I have heard about using leather, but won’t that mar the cowling as well? I thought about fleece since it is very soft, durable and breathable (although it could produce static).
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| Phil T |
Posted on 03/31/08 - 3:38 PM
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Jolly -
While I would like to help, I am not clear why your lines are chafing at the motor. Can you move a cleat to eliminate the issue? Got a photo I can view (and drool over you boat too)?
What about threading a car seat belt protector made of that of wool like material?
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| jb4146 |
Posted on 03/31/08 - 4:51 PM
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I agree with Noontide, anything you use is going to chafe on the cowling to some degree if the there is enough tension in the line.
That said, how about neoprene? Some sailing dinghies employ a sown neoprene sleeve on nylon hiking straps that are similar to auto seat belts in the cockpit (where you hook your feet under) to prevent chafing on bare skin.
How about one of those swim noodles with the hole in the center? Not too cosmetically appealing, but perhaps functional. Thread the line through or slit it down the length and slip it on.
I'm on a roll here...
Similar to a swim noodle but lower profile would be one of those lengths of foam they sell in home stores to insulate hot water pipes. I've used that solution with some success to protect the hood of my vehicle from chafing from the line that holds a big load on the roof down in front and is tied under the bumper. Can't beat the price on that one.
Just guessing, but I think fleece type solutions will absorb water and eventually turn green and cruddy.
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| ioptfm |
Posted on 03/31/08 - 5:31 PM
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I would think that you need to reconfigure your dock cleats so the lines won't come in contact with the cowling. Even you have soft cotton rubbing on the fiberglass cowling in the same spot over a period of time it is going to chaffe the finish
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| jollyrog305 |
Posted on 04/01/08 - 5:30 AM
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Attached is the stern config. The only difference is that the motors are tilted up which causes the dock lines to cross over larger areas of each motor. I did neglect to state that there is sufficient slack in the lines for tidal changes, etc.
CBO – Thanks for the suggestion. The seat belt protector is almost exactly like the cinch cover except that the cinch is fleece.
Jim - didn’t think about the noodles, but I do have a lot of the Freon line covering left over from last year. It has a self adhesive strip down the cut to bind/fuse it together and I could zip tie it at the ends.
I think I will just make the investment in the Verado covers. They have a high UV protectant, interior lining and will keep the cowling/decals looking good.
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Thanks everyone – appreciate your feedback
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| Phil T |
Posted on 04/01/08 - 9:19 AM
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Jolly -
Can you post a photo showing the slip/pilings/dock. I want to spit ball some different ideas for rigging of the lines to avoid the motors at the X.
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| Noontide |
Posted on 04/01/08 - 1:04 PM
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Besides our Whaler 17 we also have a larger Contender which had the same problem. We solved it by moving the boat substantally forward in the slip and using much longer stern lines. Now the lines chaff along the lower unit instead of the cowling. If you cant do this go for the cowling cover anything else will chaff the cowling over time.
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| moose |
Posted on 04/01/08 - 1:15 PM
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I don't know the range of the tides in your area but would it be possible to run these lines forward and secure them to the cleat/pile at the bow and run the bow lines to where these tie off? Would that give you too much movement?
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| jollyrog305 |
Posted on 04/01/08 - 1:24 PM
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Unfortunately I can't move her any more forward. Found some less expensive, but nice, covers. I think I will use a combination of these covers and the freon covers over the lines. I guess I could always tie the port to the port piling and the sboard to sboard piling, but I thought crossing was more secure/stronger? Will try to get a photo this weekend.
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| moose |
Posted on 04/01/08 - 1:47 PM
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If you must cross the motors you might try to spray some "liquid rollers" on the covers to make them more slippery where they rub. Also changing the lines fore and aft shouldn't move the boat at all. You may have misunderstood what I meant.
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| jollyrog305 |
Posted on 04/01/08 - 3:01 PM
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Mike - sorry for the confusion - I was responding to Noontides recommendation. Thanks for the liquid rollers suggestion - sounds like part of the solution
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| ioptfm |
Posted on 04/01/08 - 6:19 PM
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In my opinion, your best option will be to not cross the lines and use additional spring-lines mid way on the boat. That will prevent it from forward and rear movement, but again, regardless of how soft it is, any material at all rubing on the cowling for a length of time is going to mar the finish
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| jollyrog305 |
Posted on 04/02/08 - 6:10 AM
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Thanks everyone. I am going to buy the covers (mostly for UV/weather protection), uncross the stern lines and run a “new’ spring line along the entire sboard side. Thoughts?
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| egerrity |
Posted on 04/02/08 - 7:06 AM
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Looks like a good solution. Are you backed in to the slip with only poles all the way forward?
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| jollyrog305 |
Posted on 04/02/08 - 7:20 AM
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Yes - backed in. Below is a very bad rendering of the pier/walkway and piling placements
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| Phil T |
Posted on 04/02/08 - 7:56 AM
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Jolly -
I appreciate the diagrams. Thanks for the effort.
What are the concerns you need to address. Are you getting a repeating wind/current movement in one or two directions?
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