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1965 Nauset pre-purchase question
Pilot	#1  Posted on 01/20/08 - 3:19 PM
Member Posts: 14 Comments: 0 Joined: 01/20/08	I'm looking at a 1965 Nauset - seller has said it has a 1993 Johnson 140hp motor mounted on it, but that he was told by the 'mechanic' it has been 'rated' at 90 hp. My concern is the 100 hp max / and weight stress on transom. Any thoughts? Did the Johnson 140 and 90 use the same block (wieght), etc.? Thanks, Pilot
kamie	#2  Posted on 01/20/08 - 3:42 PM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 2975 Comments: 3 Joined: 11/04/05	1993 Johnson - all 20 inch shaft: 90 HP - 301# 115 HP - 306# 120/140 HP - 365# I wouldn't worry too much about 64# especially if the outboard has been on there since 1993. Make sure the outboard is solid with even compression and you don't see anything other than normal UV cracks in the stern area and no sign of weakness. If you repower the boat, I would look for an outboard that comes close in weight so long as the horsepower isn't too low. Current E-Tec weights: 90HP - 320# 115 HP - 369# Good Luck
Pilot	#3  Posted on 01/20/08 - 4:19 PM
Member Posts: 14 Comments: 0 Joined: 01/20/08	Thanks for the quick reply - i'd been looking for 1993 weights but wasn't locating the information. Do anyone know what the Max. HP and Weight was for the1965-66 Nauset? Thanks, Pilot
Davidk	#4  Posted on 01/20/08 - 4:36 PM
Member Posts: 196 Comments: 1 Joined: 12/05/07	Max HP is 100. I don't know the max weight, but most people start getting squeemish after 375 or 400 pounds.
Pilot	#5  Posted on 01/20/08 - 4:51 PM
Member Posts: 14 Comments: 0 Joined: 01/20/08	Thanks . . . My preference would be to go more conservative - 90hp, etc. Unfortunately the boats got the 140HP on it. I'm thinking I'll have to replace the engine. Anyone know if modern engines will mount without issue to a 1966 Nauset? Is 5,900 reasonable for a 1966 Nauset in good condition? Pilot
kamie	#6  Posted on 01/20/08 - 5:47 PM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 2975 Comments: 3 Joined: 11/04/05	Why replace the engine if it still runs? I would use it until it quit, as long a you get a mechanic to check the compression that outboard should last awhile. A new 90HP E-Tec will run you $7,300 plus or minus and it would bolt on with no issues, but as I said, I would run that engine for as long as I could. The value is based on what shape the boat is, photo's speak a lot. How original is the boat, what shape is the wood, what extras as far as canvas, cushions, bottom paint etc..
Pilot	#7  Posted on 01/20/08 - 5:59 PM
Member Posts: 14 Comments: 0 Joined: 01/20/08	yes agree . . . I'll run it for awhile locally (if it's in good shape) . . . but we're likely to run the boat in some remote areas and will likely want to replace to increase the odds of dependability. As I travel the world . . . I see a lot Yamaha in third world areas and my 8 & 15 have always started on 1-2 pulls even ater sitting for a year. However, as I start looking at bigger engines here in the US a E-Tec engines seem to thought pretty highly of. Is that the consensus on this site?? Thanks, Richard
kamie	#8  Posted on 01/20/08 - 6:20 PM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 2975 Comments: 3 Joined: 11/04/05	Any engine can fail, even a new one. Depends on what you mean by remote areas? If you mean Baltimore that's different than Malaysia? Most important in both cases are dealers and getting repair parts. If you plan to travel out of the country, look on the web sites for listings of dealers in the area of the world you might go. I would base my decision on the availability of dealers. As for how E-Tec's are seen, it's a personal thing. I love them, but then I own one so listen and make your own judgment. My starts fast, runs good and while I haven't totally dialed in the prop for optimum performance I think it's a better engine than the old Merc I had before. To the Merc's credit, I bought the engine, knowing that one cylinder had low compression, and the outboard was corroded from sitting in saltwater. It lasted me 2 1/2 years, which to be honest was longer than I though it would. The Merc pushed the boat for 11 years and I am sure did a fine job and had it been better treated probably would still be pushing the boat today. People who love Merc's or Yahama's will say the same about their outboards, just human nature I think.
ppoorman	#9  Posted on 01/20/08 - 6:38 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 24 Comments: 0 Joined: 12/17/06	I have a 1967 Nauset. Bought it last winter enginless. I settled on a brand new 2 stroke 90hp Merc. Motor weigh's just over 300 lbs. Fits right, boat is fast, no complaints. A freind has a 68' Nauset with the same motor but 4 stroke which weigh's around 400 lbs. It sits real low in the water at the stern, made me scared in waves. But - I think there are a lot of nauset owners who have 400 lb engines and are very happy, back to preferance I guess. I prefer more freeboard!
Pilot	#10  Posted on 01/20/08 - 6:42 PM
Member Posts: 14 Comments: 0 Joined: 01/20/08	Yes agree people have their personal favorites . . . Actually I was thinking of Malaysia . . . and northern Mekong river, Hong Kong & China, etc - saw a lot of Yamaha. When we relocated to China, we sold our sailboat but kept the 11' zodiac and Yamaha which we took to China with us. Mine sat in my garage for 3 years, never started . . . when we returned I pulled it about 3 times and it started right up. Having said that I'm thnking the E-tec sounds pretty good with limiting moving parts and lower weight vs. the others. As for remore for this whaler thinking more like the Hudson Bay, Norhern Canada. Pilot
Pilot	#11  Posted on 01/20/08 - 6:47 PM
Member Posts: 14 Comments: 0 Joined: 01/20/08	ppoorman - agree . . . I'm more partial to freeboard than speed. Kamie shared weights and it looks like the 4 stroke e-tec was only 320lbs. Pilot
kamie	#12  Posted on 01/20/08 - 7:16 PM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 2975 Comments: 3 Joined: 11/04/05	I think you will be fine with whatever engine you want to put on the boat. Now in Malaysia, there are only 2 Evinrude dealers, and I am guessing that only one does OB, In that case I would be inclined to pick something else but in Hudson Bay, not much of an issue. I agree there is a feeling of safety with a brand new engine and not someones leftovers. Good Luck
Pilot	#13  Posted on 01/20/08 - 7:42 PM
Member Posts: 14 Comments: 0 Joined: 01/20/08	Thanks everyone for the input . . .