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I am new to the BW world. I have been looking for a good used boat for some time now and have decided,after a lot of research, to purchase a BW for all the obvious reasons.
I have recently come across a 1982/83 22ft CC/cuddy with an Evinrude V6 200hp,1998,this is the year on the registration but current owner feels last two numbers were typoed should probably be 1989 as year of motor.
I'm not sure what the boat,motor and trailer is worth. I have researched this as much as I can and have come to the conclusion that older BW are worth much more than conventional prices(NADA,KELLY BLUE BOOK,etc) would lead one to believe.
The boat looks to be in pretty good shape,needs some TLC especially the wood,the hull has no noticable dings,grooves ,etc.
Also I can't figure out if it is an Outrage or Revenge model. I have looked on this website at the different models and I still haven't aquired the "eye" to tell the difference,but I'm working on it.LOL
Any advice/suggestions/questions or thoughts would be greatly appreciated as I am very anxious to be the proud owner of a BostonWhaler but I don't want to jump in without the proper knowledge especially on an older model and what better way to gain knowledge than going to the experience well.
The CC stands for Center Console. The boat as you say is a 1982/83 22ft CC/cuddy.
If this is the case, then is should have a Center Console and a cuddy upfront. Like this: http://www.whalercentral.com/userphot...photo_id=2
If it looks like the above photo, then it is actually an "Outrage 22' Cuddy" model.
The Revenge series does NOT have a Center Console. The helm is located at the rear of the cabin (cuddy) on the starboard side. Here is one Revenge model: http://www.whalercentral.com/userphot...hoto_id=65
If you look at the HIN (Hull Indentification Number) located on the metal plate on the stern of the boat, this will tell you the year model. See this article: http://www.whalercentral.com/readarti...icle_id=61
As far as the Evinrude. If you give us the model number, we can tell you the year of the motor.
The serial number won't tell us this info so we need the model #.... Should be something like, E200TXCEB
Joe, Appreciate the feed back and especially the websites. Is there any advice on getting a rough idea on the value of the boat,trailer etc. Since my last thread I have found out that the current owner is asking $8K for the entire package. I'm not sure if this is a fair price for the package or not.
Need some direction/advice in this area.
$8K sounds like a good deal. If I was looking to buy this boat here is what I would check out...
The engine, good compression?
- Any maintenence records?
- Prop look good, damage?
- Fuel lines, have they been replaced?
- Batteries ok?
- Is it eqquipped with Fuel - water separater Filter?
The hull, any obvious damage?
- check the brass thru-hull drains tubes are they sealed? Corroded?
- Are the deck seams sealed?
- rubrail intact?
- check the circular access ports on the decks are the "O" rings intact?
- Steering system ok?
Some of these things are minor but they can give you an idea of how the boat was maintained. Good luck and keep us posted.
When looking at any boat, I want to see the Maint. records, I am especially looking for the water pump being replaced every two years, If I have seen that the water pump was neglected, I kind of lose much interest in the boat, the first question I would ask is "has the water pump been replaced every two years" ? Anyone that offers excuses as to why it has NOT been replaced, usually will neglect the rest of the motor( plugs, wires, lower gear oil etc). The water pump is the "Life Blood" of the engine, most of a boat's value is in the engine, not the hull, "NADA" is "BRUTAL" on any price, how can they know the value of a boat, if the year of the engine is not included in their formula for estimating the price of the boat ???
I figure with the way I drive, and the way I maintain my engine, about 10 years is the Max. for an outboard in salt water, you may get 20 years out of an outboard, and many folks do but, in my world any outboard over 10 years old is on borrowed time due to the Harsh environment, and high rpm speeds of an outboard (they'll run at 5500 rpm for a sustained amount of time, try that with a car engine)
mw
p.s., As Joe said "keep it under your hat", many of us have learned that if you see a whaler at a fair price "BUY IT" as it won't last long, it's more than just buying a "Whaler", it's actually a "HUNT", with some "Luck" thrown in, Good luck, let us know, happy hunting !
I must admit, I owned my 1985 Evinrude 70hp for 15 years and never changed the water pump.
Was I negligent? I don't think so... I always keep an eye on the stream during the season.
Should I have changed the impeller? Maybe if I took the boat offshore...
I did change plugs every year and changed lower unit oil about every 5 years.
The only thing that ever happened to this motor was at about 10 years, the lower unit prop shaft seal finally went out and starting leaking on the garage floor. I changed the prop shaft seals and obviously changed lower unit oil... Other than that, NO problems.
Whenever I do purchase a used engine or boat. I do always replace the impeller, spark plugs, lower unit oil, and thermostats... This way you know what you have to begin with...
My use is in salt water, maybe I live in a silty area, when I check the wear plates on the impeller by placing them together after the water pump change out, they are clearly worn down, it does'nt look like much but a few thousants of an inch on each side of the wear plates adds up, I always replace the whole housing too, the wear plates will leak water past them if you just add a new impeller and they are worn, it will reduce engine life by an inefficent cooling system, it's common practice not to go more than two years here without a water pump change out. The price of a new pump to me is cheap insurance, they are not very expensive, and I change them out myself, I used to change them out yearly, and got 16 years out of the last engine. It was still running when I sold it, it was a bit too old for me to trust with the family, so I went new.
mw
Fellow Water Dogs,
I want to thank each and every one of you for the excellent advice and suggestions in your responses to my question.
Having looked at a few different sites (just serfing for information about BW's)I feel so fortunate to have found this particular one.
This site has all the "CLASS" and "INTEGRITY" that one doesn't seem to find very often in todays world. and its because of the calibour of people that support it.
The deal hasn't happened as of yet but I will keep the site up to date as things progress and hopefully be able to post some pictures when available.
