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Advice on '89 Outrage 22 Cuddy-and a few other questions
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| flwhaler |
Posted on 06/14/07 - 4:37 AM
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I have the opportunity to purchase an immaculate 1989 revenge cuddy with a 1990 yamaha 225. I dont know anything about this type of whaler, any advice would be helpful. I do alot of offshore gulf fishing in southern fl. Is the cuddy useable?, is this a good whaler? Is the [yamaha] engine a good engine?
Also, I have a 1964 Eastport, bare hull-any suggestions on pricing, the hull is in excellent shape,just finished restoring the hull in and out. I also have a console that looks like the 1989 outrage console, reversible seat and original gas tank-any suggestions on values....I need to sell my eastport and the other parts if I purchase the outrage cuddy. Thanks...
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 06/14/07 - 10:23 AM
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flwhaler,
We need to know exactly which model you are thinking about purchasing.
You might want to take a look at the Whaler Model/Year Index:
http://www.whalercentral.com/userphot...allery.php
In 1989 the model would either be called a Revenge model or an Outrage Cuddy model.
2 different boats. Also in 1989, there isn't a 23 model... It has to be a 20', 22' or a 25' ....
Take a look at the members personal page section and view different models.
Here is a Revenge.
http://www.whalercentral.com/infusion...ser_id=365
Here is an Outrage Cuddy.
http://users.sisqtel.net/jkriz/Outrag...age22.html
As you can see from the photos above, the 2 boats are nothing alike..
Let us know which model you are looking at...
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| flwhaler |
Posted on 06/14/07 - 2:22 PM
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I was thinking revenge, but I meant outrage. The boat I'm looking at is a 1989 22 foot outrage cuddy, just like the one in the link you sent to me Joe. Sorry for the confusion.
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 06/14/07 - 3:44 PM
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flwhaler,
No problem....
Now we know what boat you are referring to... and a nice model at that as I owned one.
The Outrage Cuddy has a nice place to nap and a place for the kids or women to get out of the sun.
You can also store stuff in the Cuddy.
One drawback is that it makes anchoring a little tougher for some of us older folks. You have to basically climb on top of the Cuddy to get to the bow. Another drawback is you loose the deck space for fishing 360ยบ around the boat....
It all comes down to what an individual wants or needs out of their Whaler.
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| flwhaler |
Posted on 06/14/07 - 4:16 PM
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I appreciate the information. It seems like it could be a nice boat, its offered at $9,000. complete......the fishing would be tough... I need a boat that would carry me 50 + miles offshore, but I could muddle through it I think. If I could find a small electric winch, maybe the anchoring would be ok, docking could get dicy on an adverse day.
Do you know where I could find infor re:the 1990 yamaha 225 excel she is powered with, and how to arrive at pricing of some of the parts and Eastport hull I have? Thanks again.
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 06/14/07 - 4:34 PM
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flwhaler,
I would jump on that boat right now if not sooner.....
I would start another post and ask your question about the price of the Eastport hull.
Photos would help and more info too. Trailer, motor, console, etc... ????
I would contact a Yamaha dealer and see if they can get you a manual for that motor.
Yamaha's are good engines but we don't know how many hours, etc... on the motor...
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| MWH |
Posted on 06/14/07 - 8:34 PM
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flwhaler,
I have the 25 Outrage/Cuddy and I have taken it 60+miles offshore. I suspect the 22 would be fine as long as the weather is good and you have the range. Regarding the cuddy, it has its uses as mentioned by Joe. I can tell you, it hasn't been a problem on my boat when it comes to fishing. Most of the time, we troll and fish from the stern. However we have used the top of the cabin as a casting platform.
On anchoring, I deploy the anchor from the side then walk forward on the top of the cabin and secure the anchor line to the bow. To retrieve, I use the anchor ball retrieval system. Its a orange ball with a foot of line attached and a stainless steel ring at the other end. The ring opens (you might be familiar with the system). I slide the ring through the anchor line then start up the boat, power forward in the direction of the anchor (being careful not to run over the anchor line). As I move forward the anchor line travels through the ring and the danforth is pulled from the seafloor up to the surface. The anchor line, anchor chain and anchor will be floating on the surface. Very easy to get back in the boat without having to manually pull to the surface. Its the poormans anchor windlass....Good luck.
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| flwhaler |
Posted on 06/14/07 - 8:42 PM
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Seems like a good deal..I'd have to get use to the "cuddy climb". What do ya'll think?
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| flwhaler |
Posted on 06/15/07 - 3:35 AM
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I guess I dont get how to post pics.
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| Mike |
Posted on 06/15/07 - 4:19 AM
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flwhaler,
If you are trying to link to a picture that is already on the WEB just paste the link in your post, highlight it and click on the url button below the the text entry box that you type your reply in.
If you are trying to post a picture that you have on your computer use the "POST REPLY" button located near the top and the bottom of the thread you are posting to. Below the reply box you will see the "Attachment" field. Click on the browse button, locate the photo you want to attach.
After you have entered your text AND selected the image you want to attach click the "Post Reply" button.
Mike
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| andygere |
Posted on 06/15/07 - 10:56 PM
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I have a 1989 22 Cuddy, and it is a versatile boat and a great fishing platform. Docking is as easy as any other center console and shouldn't be a concern. The cuddy is great for storing gear, keeping things dry and the occasional camp out. My wife and I do a few overnights per year, and the bunks are reasonably comfortable, while the cuddy doesn't use much space in the boat.
Anchoring isn't bad, and can be done by crawling out the deck hatch if things are really nasty. Otherwise, I usually scamper to the bow and just squat down while I deploy or retrieve it. I use a light Fortress anchor to make it easier to carry the anchor to the bow. I spliced 20' of chain to the anchor line, all of which goes down the rope deck pipe, and is secured with a loop of shock cord.
1989 is a good year for this boat, because it should have the full width splash well, a superior design to the "Montauk style" splashwell found on earlier models. Photos of mine are at:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v40.../andygere/
Here's one of my favorites:
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/andygere/Golden%20Gate%20Whalers/SalmonDerby016.jpg[/img]
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