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Attentions outrage 18/19 owners--time for me to re-power
rwethereyet	#1  Posted on 07/22/12 - 7:12 AM
Member Posts: 51 Comments: 0 Joined: 12/12/10	I have a 1992 outrage 19 and it's time to re-power. I did see the article on engine weights as this is a major concern. Currently, I have the original 1992 evinrude 150. (I also utilize a 100+ lb livewell in the stern of the boat). I am most interested in the suzuki 140, but I'm open for any suggestions...? Thanks for any feedback.... rwethereyet 1992 Outrage 19' I, 2012 Suzuki DF 140
Marko888	#2  Posted on 07/22/12 - 8:00 AM
Member Project Albums Posts: 413 Comments: 10 Joined: 05/26/08	I'm also eyeing the Suzuki 140 as my engine of choice when re-power time arrives. My reasons are: - lightest 4 stk with adequate power - Highly regarded for reliability - 42-43 mph top speed is enough for me. - reasonable purchase cost - no oil tank required - fuel economy I think there might be the odd day when I'd wish for a big block 150, but not often enough to justify the increased costs associated with one, as most of the time, we will be not be heavily loaded.
Phil T	#3  Posted on 07/22/12 - 9:06 AM
Administrator Personal Page Personal Album Project Albums Posts: 7043 Comments: 6 Joined: 03/26/05	You are not the only one to repower. Use the search feature (below the masthead, for "Outrage 18 Repower" (match exact words) and enjoy some interesting threads. Edited by Phil T on 07/22/12 - 9:06 AM
whalerman	#4  Posted on 07/22/12 - 9:28 AM
Member Posts: 540 Comments: 5 Joined: 06/26/07	If you stick with Evinrude,you can use most if not all your rigging which would save you a bundle of $$$$$$$$'s THOM : 1999 Outrage 18, 2012 E-TEC 150, 2012 EZ Loader trailer
Joe Kriz	#5  Posted on 07/22/12 - 9:38 AM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	All the four strokes in this category are fairly heavy weights. The Honda 150 and the Suzuki 150 weight the same at 485 pounds. See this article we have on "Current Engine Choices and Weights". http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...ticle_id=6 My present 1985 Evinrude 150 weighs in at 386 pounds. Not sure what your 1992 weighs but I believe it is very similar. Edited by Joe Kriz on 07/22/12 - 12:50 PM
kamie	#6  Posted on 07/22/12 - 10:31 AM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 2975 Comments: 3 Joined: 11/04/05	E-TEC 130HP 405# or E-TEC 150HP 433# There is a summer special running of 3.5% APR or a 5 year warranty no maintenance for 3 years or 300 hours, two stroke power with 4 stroke fuel economy.
Marko888	#7  Posted on 07/22/12 - 12:35 PM
Member Project Albums Posts: 413 Comments: 10 Joined: 05/26/08	The Suzuki 140 weigh's 421 or so, not 485.
Joe Kriz	#8  Posted on 07/22/12 - 12:49 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	Excuse me. I was looking at the Suzuki 150 which weighs 485.
rwethereyet	#9  Posted on 07/22/12 - 6:44 PM
Member Posts: 51 Comments: 0 Joined: 12/12/10	There are many interesting threads on the subject......The outrage 18/19 is an interesting boat. It is an entry level off-shore boat with a beefy transom that allows single or twin engine rigging (twin 70's or single engine with a kicker)...this boat is designed for variation in weight at the stern. There is no doubt that engine weight is an issue, but how much of an issue.......? Thanks for the continued feedback..... rwethereyet 1992 Outrage 19' I, 2012 Suzuki DF 140
Joe Kriz	#10  Posted on 07/22/12 - 7:09 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	With a 100 pound livewell already in the stern, I would think you would want the lightest 130 to 150 available. Twin 70hp Evinrudes weigh in at about 500 pounds. My prior Outrage 18' with twin 70hp Evinrudes. http://users.sisqtel.net/jkriz/Outrag...age86.html Suzuki 140, 421 pounds + 100 lb livewell = 521 pounds I don't think I would go beyond that. There is one member here that put on a pair of 90hp Evinrudes weighing in at 320 each = 640 pounds. He no longer owns the boat so not sure how it did with that much weight. Another member has a pair of older 115hp Mercury. Not sure what they weigh. Edited by Joe Kriz on 07/22/12 - 7:13 PM
Finnegan	#11  Posted on 07/22/12 - 10:37 PM
Member Posts: 1926 Comments: 16 Joined: 05/02/08	The 1992 Outrage II 19 is a 1900# boat and needs every bit of 150HP on it. It can only accomodate a single engine, incidentally. You will be badly disappointed in a Suzuki 140, since most indicate it's really pushing that HP rating, and most likely less. If you want solid 4-stroke power, consider the large cube (3.0 liter) brand new Mercury 150 EFI. You can buy one for $10K, and it supposedly has as much acceleration and top end as the 150 Optimax, yet only weighs 20# more than an E-tec 150, and costs less. This brand new engine platform is taking the 150 market by storm.
Blackduck	#12  Posted on 07/23/12 - 12:55 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 519 Comments: 0 Joined: 02/25/06	The new Mercury 150 is the way to go, for sure- Walter Reynolds 1973 Boston Whaler 16 Nauset 90 HP Yamaha
Joe Kriz	#13  Posted on 07/23/12 - 1:35 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	The weight of the Mercury 150 4 stroke is 455 lbs for the 20 inch shaft version. You guys need to look closer at the weights. So, it is not 20 pounds heavier then the E-Tec 150. It is more then that. Not sure how much more you have to add for the 25 inch shaft model as Mercury does not put that info on their website. This has been a trick for many engine manufactures in the past. Mercury seems to still be doing this while other list their 25 inch shaft motor weights. All the other motors on this list show the 25 inch shaft weights. http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...ticle_id=6 Anyone know the exact weight of the new Mercury 150 4 stroke with the 25 inch shaft? The Evinrude site shows a difference of 15 pounds between the 20 inch and 25 inch shaft. http://www.evinrude.com/en-US/Engines...TEC_150_V6 So, if Mercury is about the same, then you would have to add 15 pounds to the 455 which = 470 pounds for the 25 inch shaft version. Remember, the original poster has a 100+ pound livewell in the stern. Edited by Joe Kriz on 07/23/12 - 1:39 PM
kamie	#14  Posted on 07/23/12 - 5:08 PM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 2975 Comments: 3 Joined: 11/04/05	rwethereyet, here is what we haven't ask yet, how do you use or plan to use your boat? Everyone has an opinion about what the best engine is, because well it's not our money so if it was me I would go for broke, drop a 175HP or 200HP and really scream across the water. But are you fishing with no need to fly to your destination or is pulling 4 or 5 water skiers a must?
Joe Kriz	#15  Posted on 07/23/12 - 6:50 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	I think we really need to know what hull he has. Outrage 19' I with full width transom or the Outrage 19' II with the notched transom for single engine? The reason I say this is because there have been several hulls replaced with newer year designation even though they are the older full width transom. I believe you could even special order the older hulls during a certain time period. Take a look at Henry Tiete 1996 Outrage 19' I. His hull was replaced in 1996 with the older style hull and that is the year on the HIN tag. It is however, the older 19' I model and not the 19' II model. http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...icle_id=21 So, rwethereyet, what model Outrage 19' do you have? Outrage 19' I with the full width transom? Outrage 19' II with the notched transom for single engine? I guess wernotthereyet until we here back from you.
rwethereyet	#16  Posted on 07/23/12 - 8:05 PM
Member Posts: 51 Comments: 0 Joined: 12/12/10	I have the 19' I with the full transom. I use the boat mainly for fishing. Currently, the original motor is on the boat--1992 evinrude 150 spitfire series. I think the weight of that motor is around 375 lbs. Additionally, I often use a removable livewell that sits in the stern (weight is 100-120lbs).....As everyone knows, the boat has great floatation........ Am I overly concerned with an additional 45-80 lbs in the stern....? I want what everyone wants....the most HP, with the least engine weight, at the best price (with the best warranty)....is that to much to ask for.... rwethereyet 1992 Outrage 19' I, 2012 Suzuki DF 140
Joe Kriz	#17  Posted on 07/23/12 - 8:08 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	This hull has either been replaced in the past or was one of those special order 19' I models. Can you give me more info on this boat so we can add it to the Outrage 18'/19' list? Stencil Number and HIN number would be perfect. When you said 1992, it is almost a given that it would have been the notched transom Outrage 19' II model. Take a look at JoeH is this list. His was a special order 19' I model. Made in June of 1992 as a 1992 Outrage 19' I model. And the one after JoeH is a special order 1993 Outrage 19' I model. Must have been a few ordered. http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...icle_id=21 Edited by Joe Kriz on 07/23/12 - 8:13 PM
rwethereyet	#18  Posted on 07/23/12 - 8:12 PM
Member Posts: 51 Comments: 0 Joined: 12/12/10	I wondered about my hull....I assumed it was a 91 model year left over and tagged as a 92 model year. The hull ID has 92 in it. I will get the exact number to you.... rwethereyet 1992 Outrage 19' I, 2012 Suzuki DF 140
Joe Kriz	#19  Posted on 07/23/12 - 8:14 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	That would be great. We like to keep track of these things as they come up. Another thing, what console do you have? The Standard one with the teak access doors or the one with the Electronics box on top? http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...icle_id=58 Edited by Joe Kriz on 07/23/12 - 8:15 PM
rwethereyet	#20  Posted on 07/23/12 - 8:18 PM
Member Posts: 51 Comments: 0 Joined: 12/12/10	electronics box on top.....no teak on this boat anywhere. Also has removable top deck with access to central compartment and fuel tank... rwethereyet 1992 Outrage 19' I, 2012 Suzuki DF 140