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Hydraulic Steering Installation
kamie	#1  Posted on 05/21/07 - 10:10 AM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 2975 Comments: 3 Joined: 11/04/05	I have the new Seastar steering installed including the helm. What is a good angle for the ports exiting the back of the helm so the cables can be routed out of the way? Also, can the cables be suspended out of the way, provided they don't get kinked? Mine currently ended up pointed down to the floor which puts them in front of the door, hard to use the storage that way. I will post pictures later. Thanks http://kamie.homelinux.org/kamie/100_...0_2094.jpg Suggestions for getting the hoses out of the way are welcome Edited by kamie on 05/22/07 - 8:21 PM
kamie	#2  Posted on 05/22/07 - 8:26 PM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 2975 Comments: 3 Joined: 11/04/05	Forgot to ask, any tricks to purging the steering if your solo?
firstpawn	#3  Posted on 05/25/07 - 7:30 PM
Member Posts: 7 Comments: 0 Joined: 04/03/07	The purging is really not too bad. You will need a bucket, 2 xtra pieces of hose to run from the "out" on the steering mech. Pull those cover caps off - set to side Attatch the xtra pieces of hose and dip them in the bucket. loosen one side for fluid to flow, turn the wheel that direction. when the air stops retighten nut, now to do the other side. When you get no air and good overflow of fluid. Your are finished. Final tighten your lines, recap the overflow ends. Clean up the Red juice and lets go boating. Eric
bobhil	#4  Posted on 05/27/07 - 5:39 AM
Member Posts: 44 Comments: 1 Joined: 04/15/07	I am considering replacing the steering cable with hydraulic. Which model did you go with, cost and how did the install go. This is for a 17 Montauk with a Honda 90 and my wife uses the boat the most.
kamie	#5  Posted on 05/28/07 - 6:09 PM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 2975 Comments: 3 Joined: 11/04/05	firstpawn, thanks for the tip. I will try to bleed it again, since I still have some air in there. nice tip about the bucket. I went with Sea Star because I repowered with a 175HP, but for your application Bay Star from Teleflex would be fine. Do a search for the best price, it should be around $500.
Mike	#6  Posted on 05/28/07 - 6:17 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 337 Comments: 1 Joined: 03/18/05	Kamie, Is it ever nice and clean inside that new console! What do you have planned for the electrical - fuses, house breaker, etc...? Mike
Joe Kriz	#7  Posted on 05/28/07 - 6:33 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	Kamie, The Hydraulic systems are no longer a closed system. They have vented plug.... If you have any air left, it should come out after a little use. There are two basic types of Hydraulic Steering systems that Teleflex sells. 1. Baystar = up to 150 hp 2. Seastar = 150 hp and over I personally would not put a Baystar on a 150 hp motor. If you read the Teleflex specifications you can come to your own conclusion....
kamie	#8  Posted on 05/28/07 - 7:12 PM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 2975 Comments: 3 Joined: 11/04/05	Mike, Two BlueSea fuse blocks, one for bilge pumps, lights stuff I might want to leave on overnight should I ever go camping and one for electronics. I will take photo's of the wiring, once I clean it all up. Mostly this weekend was getting it done, not making it all pretty. Joe, I think Teleflex will tell you that it BayStar is fine for 150HP as long as your not running a 150 HO. Since I was going to be above that, it was SeaStar all the way for me. In Bob's application for a 90HP on a Montauk, I see no reason to spend the money on SeaStar unless you plan to seriously over power. Even with the SeaStar, Teleflex specifically indicates not to use it if the boat is over powered.
Joe Kriz	#9  Posted on 05/28/07 - 7:39 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	Kamie, The specifications are not that clear from Teleflex... That is why I said I would leave it up to the individuals own conclusion. Here is what Teleflex states on their website: For outboard boats under 150 hp total, BayStar provides hydraulic steering performance for the lower horse power range. For outboard engine applications over 150 hp, choose one of the Seastar® family of products. 150 hp seems to be the dividing line. I can't stress this enough where they say "under 150 hp total". To me, this means do NOT use Baystar for 150 hp because they state it should be under 150 hp .... Again, I will leave this up to the individuals interpretation but I will not put a Baystar on my 150 hp Evinrude mounted on my Boston Whaler.... You made a good choice to go with the Seastar.....
kamie	#10  Posted on 05/29/07 - 7:14 AM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 2975 Comments: 3 Joined: 11/04/05	If you ask Teleflex they will tell you that BayStar is fine on a 150 and their materials are in conflict. In some cases they say "up to" 150HP implying that you should not use it for a 150, yet they clearly have instructions for 150HP Outboards in their BayStar installation manual. I know that folks are using it on 150HP outboards with no issues.