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1996 17ft Outrage II / 150hp E Tec
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| dickie do |
Posted on 05/17/07 - 3:36 PM
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I am going to purchase a 150hp E tec for my 17ft outrage II . My boat dry weight without Engine is 1700LB. and the sticker on my boat call out for 150hp Max. It does not have the trim tap. My question is ,do i need the trim tap for this side of boat? and hydraulic steering? What size Prop is the best for this boat? Since they have the 5yrs warranry or $2 dollar for each hp. promotion. Is there any differnce between 2007 and 2008 model on the outboard? I am going to order one next monday. could someone give me some advice before I order. Thank you
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 05/17/07 - 4:23 PM
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dickie do,
I think that engine would be perfect for your boat.
I am thinking about the same engine for my Outrage 18'...
I don't think you will need trim tabs as long as you have the engine and prop setup correctly.
Hydraulic steering is always a nice feature and I will be adding the SeaStar system to mine when I get the engine.
Maybe not this year for me but I am looking.....
I personally plan on taking the warranty instead of the cash.....
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| Bob Kemmler JR |
Posted on 05/17/07 - 8:41 PM
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Is that the declining aftermarket warranty? If it is, I'd take the $2k
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| Tom W Clark |
Posted on 05/17/07 - 10:11 PM
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Take the cash, no question.
*Need* hydraulic steering? No, you do not. You may want it however. It's an expensive upgrade.
There are a lot of propellers that would work well for you. Do not buy a cheapo aluminum prop, get a good stainless steel propeller. If you want to stick with a BRP prop, try their 14-3/4" x 19" SST (part #176617) or 14-3/4" x 19" Viper (part #176627). The Viper is the same as the SST but is polished instead of painted. No difference in performance.
If you want to try another manufacturer's prop, try a Stiletto Advantage II in the 14-1/4" x 17" size (Stiletto seem to perform like a prop with two more inches of pitch, so you need to select a Stiletto with a lower nominal pitch to maintain RPMs.)
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| Royboy |
Posted on 05/18/07 - 4:26 AM
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I have a 1999 Outrage 17 II with a 135 Optimax (452 lbs.) on the transom and I added Smart Tabs with 80 lbs struts to get rid of the tendancy to porpoise with this much weight back there. 60 lbs struts didn't quite do the job. With a heavy engine, a full tank of gas, and a few souls aboard, tabs are a good idea on this hull. I also have hydraulic steering; very nice.
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 05/18/07 - 10:21 AM
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Bob Kemmler,
I read the Warranty and Cash Back information on Evinrude's site.
Where did you get the $2K from?
As dickie do mentions, this is only $2 per HP Cash Back....
That is $300 Cash Back for a 150 HP engine.
Instead of the Cash Back, you can have the warranty extended 2 years to make it a total of 5 year warranty.
I do not believe that $300 is very much to pay for an extra 2 years of warranty and that's why I would take the extra 2 years of warranty
However, other people of course might prefer the $300 rather than the extra 2 years.
Here is the info from Evinrude's site:
Consumers can now take advantage of the 2007 Evinrude® E-TEC® spring retail promotion presented by BRP. From now until June 30, 2007, consumers can choose to receive a discount of $2 per horsepower on the purchase of a 150-hp or higher Evinrude E-TEC outboard engine (value of $300 to $500); or receive a 2-year extended protection plan for a total 5-years of coverage. Consumers who purchase a 115-hp or lower Evinrude E-TEC outboard will receive a $2 per horsepower discount.
The promotion is offered in the United States and Canada on Evinrude E-TEC outboard engines purchased between May 18, 2007 and June 30, 2007. Eligible models include all new, unused Model Year (MY) 2007, 2006, 2005 and 2004 Evinrude E-TEC engines 40 HP and above.
I would like to know if Bob or Tom would change their mind knowing that the Cash Back is only $300 ??????????
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| ioptfm |
Posted on 05/18/07 - 12:24 PM
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I purchased an e-tec and thru the end of March they were offering a total of a 7 year warranty. Not sure if you can still get it or not, but I would certainly ask the dealer if it is available. I looked at warranties on almost every motor out there and this was the better of them. Suzuki offers a 7 year, but it is declining and at the end you really don't have much. The E-Tec covers just about everything from the foot to the decals. I am sold on this motor and I have owned mercs, yamahas, and omcs. This one has them all beat hands down.  You can't go wrong investing in this one 
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| Bob Kemmler JR |
Posted on 05/18/07 - 3:43 PM
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oops I mis-read the first post. I didn't see it was $2 per hp and thought it was $2k lol Then it's not much of a big deal, but is this warranty directly from BRP or is it a outside warranty company? I have never been a huge fan of those aftermarket warranties, whether it be outboards,cars or electronics. Is there a deductible? Gotta read that fine print sometimes. Just a tidbit of BRP info for some of the Etecies here, don't be surprised to see a 300 hp Etec soon.
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| kamie |
Posted on 05/18/07 - 6:20 PM
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I purchased the 175HP and will get the 7 year warranty. I'm not sure if the additional 5 years are declining, but I don't believe so. I will get my paperwork next week when the boat goes back to the dealer for checkout. I added trim tabs to mine, primarily because of the light hull and the extra weight I have in the stern. The extra 30 pounds for the outboard isn't so bad, but toss in 100 pounds for the stern seat and that stern could use a little lifting.
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| dickie do |
Posted on 05/18/07 - 10:19 PM
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I call the Evinrude factory, they told me the warranty for 7yrs had been expired last march, The new promotion for E Tec is 5yrs now. I will get the 5yrs instead $300 rebate. I can't waited to get the motor on the boat. I will post some pictures after it is done.
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| dickie do |
Posted on 05/18/07 - 10:29 PM
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Tom THe BRP and Viper SS prop size you were mention . Is it perfect for my boat or is it for the perfect for 150hp E tec?
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| Tom W Clark |
Posted on 05/20/07 - 12:07 PM
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Honestly, though it is not much, I would take the $300. Here's why.
Manufacturers offer warranties primarily to help market their products, plain and simple. Manufacturers offer extended warranties because they make money on them. It is a game of chance and they do do math, calculate the odds and set a price. If they think that warranty claims will exceed the price of the warranty, they will not offer it.
So looking at it from he consumers perspective, things appear the other way around. As a consumer, one might think, "well will I have repairs exceeding the $300 price of the warranty or not?" Most will understand that $300 can be spent on an outboard in a heart beat so they figure it is a good deal.
I, on the other hand, think that i can put the $300 in the bank and a the end of the warranty period I will be ahead.
An extended warranty is nothing but an insurance policy and as such, offers one very important thing that is worth money to some people: peace of mind. Do not discount this. If you are uncomfortable with worry about something that could cost you money, you may feel better paying some money up front to calm those fears. This is part of why we all insure our cars, homes, boats, etc.
I really cannot afford to loose my house and i would really rather not loose my truck without compensation so i insure them (ignoring legal requirements for the sake of the argument).
On the other hand, if I loose an outboard motor power head or gearcase, that may hurt, but its not like I can't pay to have it replaced so I am not going to worry about it. So I am not willing to pay money to help me feel better because I am not worrying about ti in the first place.
I also have faith that BRP is producing dependable product. If I anticipated a problem with a new outboard, I might not buy it in the first place. I think long and hard about my purchases, and if I buy something, I am sure it will be reliable. I do not buy insurance policies to mitigate a perceived risk, I avoid the risk in the first place.
It is a calculated risk best left to some honest objective analysis. We all decide for ourselves.
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