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Trailer Bearing Question
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| Caseyuconn |
Posted on 04/17/12 - 11:20 AM
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Regarding my LoadRite Lil Rider trailer used for 17' Montauk.
I recently removed and replaced the bearings on my trailer and noticed that there is no washer between the king nut and outer bearing on either side. This trailer is new to me last year so this is the first time I had it apart.
I purchased and installed two new washers.
Question is, do any of your trailers not have washers between outer bearing and king nut and will washers affect how well grease gets into the bearings from the bearing buddies?
It seems to be that washers are mandatory to keep the outerbearing from rubbing on the king nut.
Thanks
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| contender250 |
Posted on 04/17/12 - 11:25 AM
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I have always have had washers with my bearings, But I do have some old trailers, I have replace the bearings on the trailer before and made sure there was a washer. The inside race should ride on the washer and the nut rides on the washer...Take care
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 04/17/12 - 11:44 AM
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Most all washers I have seen do NOT spin.
They have a notch or D shape so they do not spin....
http://www.pacifictrailers.com/boat-t...ler-axles/
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| CES |
Posted on 04/17/12 - 11:56 AM
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The washers I have are keyed and do not spin...as Joe States. yes, the washers are needed.
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| gusgus |
Posted on 04/17/12 - 12:07 PM
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I agree. I have owned many, many trailers. Not many boat trailers though. ALL of them had washers, none of them allowed the washer to spin. They all used the washer to transition between the nut during torquing (minimizing twisting damage/erosion) and to spread the nut holding force more evenly to the inner race of the outer bearing.
I don't believe the washer would hurt the grease path to the bearing, unless it was oversized and then I would be more concerned that it would contact the spinning outer race or bearing cage.
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| Guts |
Posted on 04/18/12 - 6:57 PM
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I just rebuilt my trailer for the harpoon 5.2 and the washer on is not a locking type Washer. But one thing it does have is a threaded fitting in the end of the axle for a grease zerk That is used to fill the hub cavity. Do any of you have this on your axles? I was told by the guy I bought mine from that it was a new axle for this trailer I think maybe the new trailers are coming this way. It sure was nice to pack the wheel bearings put the seal when then the washer and nut then take the grease can and start pumping until you just see the grease oozing out of the end bearing then remove the grease zerk fitting and install the buddy bearing caps then pump them full. My experience with this type of system you still have to check it a few miles and check the buddy bearing and most the time you have to give it a couple more pumps than your good for years and years if set up properly they take very little maintenance/grease. The seal usually goes out before you have to grease them again.
Okay here's my disclaimer this is my experience and my opinions only take them for what they're worth
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| Caseyuconn |
Posted on 04/18/12 - 8:17 PM
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Funny you mention that. I do have that same set up. Zerk fitting on the axle which pumps directly into the bearings. And the guy I bought it from said it was a replacement axle. Really weird thing is that this is only one one side. The other side looks like some one hacked off the end of the axle with a saw...
My trailer is a 1995. I packed the hub with marine grease and will be careful with the bearing buddies not to overfill. The only time I have had a bad experience with bearing buddies is when you over fill and blow out the rear seal. Gives your boat a nice slick bottom coat on the way to the ramp.
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| kamie |
Posted on 04/19/12 - 5:36 AM
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The axles with the zerk fittings are called Spindle Lube Axles and when I replaced the axle on my older Cox trailer I went with those. It's pretty easy to replace the grease and I haven't had any other issues with them.
Disclaimer: I only tow less than 250 miles per year.
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| Bob Younger |
Posted on 04/19/12 - 8:15 AM
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I agree with Kamie. Three years ago I replaced the axle with the spindle lube. They are great, remove the dust cap (which is not beraring buddy), pump in new grease and replace the dust cap. When you pump in the new grease it forces the old out. Make sure you have paper towels to wipe the old away. No need to worry about blowing the seal on the inside of the hub because of excessive pressure like the bearing buddy. The dust caps have a rubber insert in the middle that can be removed to access the zwert fitting but I find it earier to remove the entire cap (with a rubber mallet) so I can wipe away the old grease.
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| rfich |
Posted on 04/30/12 - 6:59 PM
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The 1993 W.E Long Inc., Tarboro, NC boat trailer with a 1" axle that my 1993 17' Outrage sits on doesn't use a spindle washer between the outer bearing and the castle nut. The castle nut has a machined face that tightens directly against the cage of the outer bearing. After 45 + years of packing various boat trailer bearings that was a first for me also.
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