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| Brooksinct |
Posted on 06/15/11 - 7:54 AM
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I was looking at the E-Tec engines and the web site says that they weigh 240 lbs. That seems crazy when it is still a two stroke. Any comments on this? All of the E-Tecs seem to weigh more then a compareable four stroke.
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| Tom W Clark |
Posted on 06/15/11 - 8:10 AM
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No, you are wrong. E-TEC outboards weigh between 146 pounds and 543 pounds. They do not all weigh 240 pounds.
Some E-TEC outboards weight less than comparable four stroke outboards and some weight about the same.
Perhaps you were referring to a particular size of E-TEC outboard motor, if so, you might want to add that to your inquiry; it is customary to explain yourself.
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| Brooksinct |
Posted on 06/15/11 - 10:10 AM
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A 40 hp weighs 235-250 and a 30 hp weighs 156 for a non power tilt. Does the fuel injection really weigh 35lbs? My 1977 evinrude 35 hp only weighs 121. It seems like they would have found a way to make them lighter especially since the compareable 4 strokes are about the same if not lighter. I am talking about the 30-40 hp range as I have a 13 sport.
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| Tom W Clark |
Posted on 06/15/11 - 10:20 AM
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Well, 156 pounds is not bad for a 13 foot Whaler. The E-TEC 40 is a little heavy but it is based on the 60 HP E-TEC and 240 pounds for a 60 is not out of line either.
The 40 HP E-TEC also uses an intermediate size gearcase, the same as is used on E-TECs all the way up to 115 HP, making it very, very robust. It can handle propellers over 14" in diameter. In contrast, your old 1977 35 HP used a prop that was only about 10" or 10-1/2" in diameter.
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| seahorse |
Posted on 06/15/11 - 11:02 AM
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Your 35hp had a very light flywheel and stator with an unregulated small output charging system. The CDI powerpack was measured in ounces.
The 40-60 E-TEC have heavy magnets in the flywheel to generate 25 fully regulated amps to the batteries plus additional amperage to power the engine computer and the ignition system and the injector pumps along with an electric high pressure pump. Those components combined with the large diameter gearcase adds some weight compared to a 24 year old traditional 2 stroke.
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| Brooksinct |
Posted on 06/17/11 - 5:19 AM
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Thank you that is the answer I was looking for.
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| thegage |
Posted on 06/17/11 - 6:05 AM
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IMO you don't need an E-TEC 40 on that 13 unless you are looking to impress someone or to try to pull a 240-lb. friend up on skis--even then you can do it with the right prop, just don't expect to go 30 m.p.h. while doing it. The E-TEC 30 is a nice balance of power and weight and does weigh the same or less than any comparable 4-stroke, with the benefit of a 2-stroke power curve.
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| kamie |
Posted on 06/17/11 - 7:49 AM
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Think twice before dropping the E-Tec 40HP on a 13. Discussions with Whaler have advised to stay below 200lbs on the transom of the older 13 footers. Do a search, there was one person who went for the 40HP and ended up dropping back to a 30HP because of the weight.
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| Sax416 |
Posted on 06/17/11 - 8:36 AM
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Tom. Does the fact the forty shares the the same build as the 60 and lower units as the 115 mean the bolt pattern is in line with the larger engines as well? I find my little 35hp does not share the standard bolt tempting as is mentioned on this sight from time to time.
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| Tom W Clark |
Posted on 06/17/11 - 9:28 AM
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Generally, the BIA standard bolt spacing for mounting an outboard motor applies to 60 HP motors and up. As the years have gone by, many manufacturers are now using the large mounting brackets and BIA spacing on smaller and smaller outboards.
Yes, the E-TEC 40 uses the same BIA standard bolt spacing, and actually all the OMC/BRP motors 40 and up from 1977 on have all used that same spacing which was established by OMC back on 1960 on their (then) top-of-the-line 75 HP motor. The old 20/25/30/35 HP models did not.
The BIA standard bolt spacing was adopted industry wide in the mid-late 1980s.
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| dgoodhue |
Posted on 06/17/11 - 11:19 AM
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1977 35hp is crank rated, since the mid 80'sm
Motor have been prop rated. Your 35 probably would have been rated as 30 now.
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| Sax416 |
Posted on 06/17/11 - 12:53 PM
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All the more reason to go with the forty if the weight isn't to much. My car has 426hp and I always wish it had just a little more
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 06/17/11 - 12:58 PM
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We have a chart for "Current Engine Choices and Weight"...
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...icle_id=78
E-Tec 30hp Long Shaft = 177
Honda 30hp Short Shaft = 178 (add a few pounds for the Long Shaft model)
Mercury 30hp Short Shaft = 172 (add a few pounds for the Long Shaft model)
Tohatsu 30hp Short Shaft = 182 (add a few pounds for the Long Shaft model)
Shaft length is obviously important depending on the model you have.
Many outboard manufacturers do not want us to know what the weight of their long shaft models are as they don't list it on their website. You either have to call or guess the weight.
In the chart above, only three manufacturers list the long shaft weight. Evinrude, Yamaha and Suzuki.
Your 1982 13' model takes a Long Shaft...
http://www.whalercentral.com/viewpage...age_id=155
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| Blackduck |
Posted on 06/17/11 - 1:42 PM
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Sax416 wrote:
All the more reason to go with the forty if the weight isn't to much. My car has 426hp and I always wish it had just a little more
You don't happen to have one of those new SS Camaro's?
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| Sax416 |
Posted on 06/18/11 - 5:11 AM
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You don't happen to have one of those new SS Camaro's?
Guilty.
It looks like the 30 evinrude has the thumb screws (clamp style) for mounting rather than through bolting. I don't know if I like that too much.
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| seahorse |
Posted on 06/18/11 - 9:19 AM
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[b]Sax416 wrote:
It looks like the 30 evinrude has the thumb screws (clamp style) for mounting rather than through bolting. I don't know if I like that too much.
The E-TEC 30, as with most of the mid to smaller Evinrudes use 2 thru-bolts for securing the motor to the transom in addtion to the 2 clamp screws. They have done that for many many years.
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| whalerman |
Posted on 06/18/11 - 2:13 PM
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I had a Johnson 40HP electramatic that had the thumb screws and never once had a probblem of it comming loose, and I put that engine thru the paces as a teenager!! Yes it was mounted on a 13 sport and I do recall that there was an aluminum plate that was there for the clamps to get a good bite,an OMC accessory I do believe.
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