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1997 Johnson 50 on a 13'
dpdash	#1  Posted on 04/06/11 - 2:25 PM
Member Posts: 55 Comments: 0 Joined: 08/01/10	Was planning on putting a Yamaha 30 on the pre 71 13' Whaler but I found a fantastic deal on a 1997 50 Johnson with trim/tilt. It's a 20" shaft which is what I need. I know it will be plenty fast enough, just worried a little about the weight. I can't find anywhere that lists the weight. Model J50TSLECC. Any input?
CES	#2  Posted on 04/06/11 - 2:50 PM
Member Personal Page Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 2681 Comments: 7 Joined: 04/27/07	Do you have a built up transom or a Kentfab transadapter? The pre '71 13's had a 15" transom so a short shaft motor is required. If your transom is built up, I don't see a problem with a 50. Guys do it all the time. Edited by CES on 04/06/11 - 2:52 PM Cliff 1966 13' Sport with a 1993 40hp Yamaha 2 Smoker
Joe Kriz	#3  Posted on 04/06/11 - 2:53 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	Cliff, This is a TIP for everyone. Click on his "Personal Website" link under his name at the left of their post. Here is an example and just like the Personal Page link: [img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/members_links/personal_website.jpg[/img] Edited by Joe Kriz on 04/06/11 - 2:56 PM
CES	#4  Posted on 04/06/11 - 2:56 PM
Member Personal Page Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 2681 Comments: 7 Joined: 04/27/07	Thanks Joe, but we shouldn't have to search his info if he's asking for advice on a 20" shaft motor for a pre '71 13' that we all know has a 15" transom. That's why I asked the question, there was no description of what he had in his write up. Thanks for pointing that out though. Cliff 1966 13' Sport with a 1993 40hp Yamaha 2 Smoker
Joe Kriz	#5  Posted on 04/06/11 - 3:04 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	True. I questioned that myself but he said "It's a 20" shaft which is what I need." To verify that, I went to his Personal Website to see what he had. Yes, it would have been clearer if he would have stated he had the transom filler then we would have known for certain. WhalerCentral cannot recommend exceeding the max hp rating of the boat which is 40hp for remote steering. If you are going to overpower, check with your insurance company if you do indeed plan on having insurance.
dpdash	#6  Posted on 04/06/11 - 7:51 PM
Member Posts: 55 Comments: 0 Joined: 08/01/10	sorry, I thought I was clear in that I need a 20" shaft, because there is an aluminum bracket on the transom converting it from 15 to 20". Any feedback on performance, weight etc????
CES	#7  Posted on 04/06/11 - 8:00 PM
Member Personal Page Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 2681 Comments: 7 Joined: 04/27/07	No problem DP. I just didn't want to read that you bought a 20" shaft motor only to post up a week later asking why there's so much spray coming back intothe boat when you're on a plane. I'm not sure of the weight of that engine. You've probably done this but in case you haven't, have you done a Google search for the weight?? Also sometimes I venture over to the iBoats.com forum and ask technical questions there too. There's a guy here in North Texas that's running a 50hp Johnson on his pre-71 13' BW. That thing really scoots along nicely too and it doesn't appear he's having weight issues. I haven't talked to him lately though. Good luck and post up your results. Wish I could have been more help to ya. Cliff 1966 13' Sport with a 1993 40hp Yamaha 2 Smoker
Derwd24	#8  Posted on 04/06/11 - 8:29 PM
Member Posts: 1607 Comments: 9 Joined: 05/09/07	The EC in your model number indicates a '98 model year (not '97). And according to NADA. the weight of this engine is 190 lbs. They don't list trim/tilt on that model in their description oddly, so it's difficult to tell if that's included in their weight and is just an oversight. But either way it gets you in the ballpark at least. http://www.nadaguides.com/Boats/1998/...ard-Motors Dave - 1983 Outrage 22
dpdash	#9  Posted on 04/07/11 - 2:43 PM
Member Posts: 55 Comments: 0 Joined: 08/01/10	Don't think thats the model, that lists 4 cylinders, mine has 2. It said manufactured in 97, I guess it could be a 98' model year. I have a hard time thinking it's 190lbs though. I did google it and could not find a weight.
CES	#10  Posted on 04/07/11 - 2:48 PM
Member Personal Page Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 2681 Comments: 7 Joined: 04/27/07	Just weigh it on a regular scale and find out for yourself. Cliff 1966 13' Sport with a 1993 40hp Yamaha 2 Smoker
DKroger	#11  Posted on 04/07/11 - 10:21 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 79 Comments: 1 Joined: 11/01/10	I think your motor is about 187# maybe a litter more if you have t/t my 48 spl is 187# no t/t 1980 13 Custom w/ 48 Evinrude DK
DKroger	#12  Posted on 04/07/11 - 10:35 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 79 Comments: 1 Joined: 11/01/10	This a 1998 50hp 2 cyl. 185# no t/t http://www.nadaguides.com/Boats/1998/Johnson/J50ESLEC/Outboard-Motors 1980 13 Custom w/ 48 Evinrude DK
dpdash	#13  Posted on 04/09/11 - 4:02 AM
Member Posts: 55 Comments: 0 Joined: 08/01/10	thanks DK, that looks like it. Soooooo, after all of this discussion, what does everyone think about the weight? Is it an issue? I have the battery and fuel tank under the seat. BTW DK, I work for a company based in Everett on HWY 99
DKroger	#14  Posted on 04/09/11 - 7:54 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 79 Comments: 1 Joined: 11/01/10	It is realy a small world. 1980 13 Custom w/ 48 Evinrude DK
Geo	#15  Posted on 04/09/11 - 9:24 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 104 Comments: 4 Joined: 11/05/08	For a short shaft 50 h.p. 2 cylinder 2 stroke, the weight is not a problem. I have a similar setup so see my personal page. What I have to wonder is whether your modified transom will be strong enough to handle that motor. Do you have a photo you can post?
John Fyke	#16  Posted on 04/09/11 - 9:39 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 1307 Comments: 0 Joined: 09/06/06	Geo wrote: For a short shaft 50 h.p. 2 cylinder 2 stroke, the weight is not a problem. I have a similar setup so see my personal page. What I have to wonder is whether your modified transom will be strong enough to handle that motor. Do you have a photo you can post? He has photos on his personal website. Looks pretty stout and should hold it just fine. John Fyke Re-Fit or Reef It 1979 15' Sport with Super Sport conversion and 70hp mercury.