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Calling all members with early 1976 16/17 hulls
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 07/11/13 - 11:38 AM
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Buellrunner wrote:
Hey Joe - Ill take a look for my Hull ID for this thread - mines a smirkless 1976 according to the previous owners.....Ill get back to you after work today....
Yes, please let us know.
Hopefully it will be one of the eleven numbers we are looking for.
Without knowing your HIN or Stencil number, we have no idea what year you have.
Could be 1973, 1974, 1975
And it could be a 1976 but there aren't many of those smirkless 1976 models.
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| Buellrunner |
Posted on 07/21/13 - 3:39 PM
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Got it - 3A8002. With this number I can track the exact year of my hull?
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 07/21/13 - 3:40 PM
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The HIN gives us more info on the year and what month it was made.
What is your HIN?
Should be a tag on the back of the transom.
3A8002
Looks like it was made sometime in late 1973 as a 1974 year model.
But without the HIN, we can't be positive.
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It is beginning to look like you have a 1974 model and not a 1976 model as you show in your profile.
Here is a trick to reading worn out HIN tags.
Use a flashlight and a magnifying glass. Look at it from various angles.
Here is what your HIN will look like:
BWCA6???M74?
Your boat will come before mrobertson in this list
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...icle_id=17
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| Buellrunner |
Posted on 07/21/13 - 4:04 PM
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Thanks for the info Joe - ill see if I can get the other number from my marina as the plate on the back of the hull is not on the boat.
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 07/21/13 - 4:08 PM
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This tag is missing?
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...cle_id=103
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| Buellrunner |
Posted on 07/21/13 - 5:54 PM
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Amazing. The information on this site never ceases to amaze me. I'm back to my boat the end of this week and hopefully I'll find it with this new useful information.
By the way I had my Montauk out in some heavy chop and wow for a boat of this size it can really handle some rough water!
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 04/24/14 - 8:11 PM
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We are still looking for anyone with these 11 Stencil Numbers listed below.
The last 3 digits of your HIN will most likely be 76D (made in November or 1975) (but could be a C in October)
The last Smirkless hull below ends with 76D and the first Smirked hull starts with 76D
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...icle_id=17
3B0330 = 1976 Smirkless hull (Lionheart)
3B0352 = 1976 Last Smirkless hull (for now this is ChelseaFish)
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3B0353
3B0354
3B0355
3B0356
3B0357 -----> We are looking for these 11 Stencil numbers.
3B0358
3B0359
3B0360
3B0361
3B0362
3B0363
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3B0364 = 1976 First Smirked hull (for now this is Paulsv)
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| northeastern |
Posted on 05/27/14 - 7:27 PM
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I have a new to me 1976 but I do not think it is going to be one of the ones your after with the HIN 76L but I will be checking for my stencil number this weekend for sure. (it is located in the anchor locker correct?)
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| Newport76 |
Posted on 06/30/15 - 11:24 AM
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Joe Kriz wrote:
As most of you know, I have been collecting boat information on the Montauk models for many years now.
For those of you that don't know, check the article here.
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...icle_id=17
Through all this info, we are getting close to narrowing down what the exact hull number was when Whaler changed from the pre-smirked (Smirkless) hull to the newer Smirked hull of 1976 models. Boston Whaler did not keep track of this particular information.
In a discussion with Chuck Bennett at Boston Whaler, the first Smirked hulls were introduced in October of 1975 as 1976 models.
This would mean that some early 16/17 1976 models were still Smirkless. This also means that 1976 models could either be Smirkless or Smirked depending on when they were manufactured.
We now have concrete evidence that narrows down this change to within 63 hull numbers at this time.
Here is the info.
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3B0330 - Smirkless (last Smirkless on the list)
http://www.whalercentral.com/infusion...r_id=17372
63 other boats fit in here (are these Smirkless or Smirked?)
3B0394 -Smirked (first Smirk on our list)
No photos as yet but BillB said he would send us some.
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We have a couple of other members that I haven't heard back from yet to determine what they actually have.
I am waiting to hear from ChelseaFish who has Stencil number 3B0352
I can't tell from her personal page if her Montauk is Smirkless or Smirked and I am not going to guess.
http://www.whalercentral.com/infusion...r_id=13524
I am aslo waiting to hear back from Paulsv on his Stencil number. He has a Smirked 1976 hull but not sure where it fits.
http://www.whalercentral.com/infusion...er_id=6410
So, do any of you have a 1976 16/17 hull with a Stencil number between 3B0330 and 3B0394 ?????
It doesn't matter what model you have, this has to do with just the 16/17 hull and the Stencil number of that 16/17 hull.
Please let us know so we can try to narrow this down further.
Joe.
Hello, I am a new owner of a 1976 Newport. I just picked her up a few weeks ago. the Stencil number is 3B0392.
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 06/30/15 - 11:48 AM
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OK.
Thanks.
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 04/28/16 - 2:28 PM
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Time to bring this up again as we are still looking for the 11 Stencil numbers in post #47 above.
Anyone?
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 08/26/16 - 1:34 PM
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This boat throws a curve into everything.
http://www.whalercentral.com/forum/vi...ost_144830
1976 Sport
BWCB6086M76C
3B0413
Smirkless
Small Bow Locker
This one shows us that Boston Whaler was building both Smirked and Smirkless at the same time and this stencil number comes after newer hulls with the Smirk.
They didn't even wait until they sold out of the old models before selling the new models.
3B0364 with the brand new Smirk and larger bow locker
3B0394 with the brand new Smirk and larger bow locker
3B0413 with the older Smirkless hull and small bow locker.
What a strange transition year.
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| Perichbrothers |
Posted on 08/26/16 - 8:40 PM
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Milkin every last bit out of those molds!
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| Weatherly |
Posted on 04/18/19 - 12:11 PM
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Hi Joe:
On 16 Apr 2019 a new Whaler Central member, jpanner, posted photographs of his Boston Whaler 16 bare hull. The photographs show a stencil number 3B0365 and a partial HIN ...6055..76C
The photographs also show the 3B0365 is a smirkless hull.
So, while 3B0364 has the smirk and larger bow locker, 3B0365 is a smirkless hull and small bow locker.
As you wrote back in 2016, the 1976 production year was a strange year for transition from smirkless 16 hull manufacturing to the smirked 17 hull.
I cite that it was Dick Cole who originated the phrase: "HYDRO-FUBAB." It was Bob Dougherty who attributed the phrase and used the term to describe the new Boston Whaler "Smirk."
Note: Hydrofubab is best translated to stand for (and bowdlerized): “hydrodynamic foulup beyond all belief."
2nd Note: Bowdlerized means material considered improper or offensive removed or changed.
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 04/18/19 - 3:00 PM
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Thanks for pointing that out Weatherly.
I missed it.
Strange transition year for sure.
3B0364 with the brand new Smirk and larger bow locker (Paulsv) http://www.whalercentral.com/infusion...er_id=6410
3B0365 with the older Smirkless hull and small bow locker (jpanner) http://www.whalercentral.com/forum/vi...pid=157773
3B0394 with the brand new Smirk and larger bow locker (BiilB)
3B0413 with the older Smirkless hull and small bow locker (geomek) http://www.whalercentral.com/forum/vi...ost_155626
Apparently they were making the older 16 hull and the newer 17 hull during the same time frame according to the Stencil Number in the hull.
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| Weatherly |
Posted on 07/16/19 - 2:47 AM
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Joe: I came across 3B0317 with smirk and large bow locker, a 1976 Montauk 17 with the wing console located for sale in Van Buren Point NY. Second owner has the boat posted for sale on Craigslist. I have a photograph of the stencil.
https://buffalo.craigslist.org/boa/d/...56161.html
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| Finallygotawhaler |
Posted on 05/01/20 - 6:01 AM
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What is the difference between smirk and smirkless?
I just got a 1976, maybe i can help...
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| biggiefl |
Posted on 05/01/20 - 7:24 AM
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Smirk is the bow of the boat under the rubrail. Sometime during the 1976 model year they changed the hull design from the old style hull whith a rectangle anchor locker and steps in the bow to a triangle anchor locker and no steps on the deck but now has small foot pads on each corner by the rubrail to help getting in/out of the boat.
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| Finallygotawhaler |
Posted on 05/01/20 - 11:58 AM
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Ok,
So I guess I have an older one,
I have the rectangle storage and 2 small steps.
I hope this helps.
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| Finallygotawhaler |
Posted on 05/01/20 - 12:01 PM
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BWCB5951M76A is the hull number
It has the Rectangle anchor storage .
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