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| elmroc |
Posted on 07/30/09 - 7:57 AM
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Mark,
Here's actual sizing on the 1/8 BSPT Screw/Plug size,
Major Dia=.383
Minor Dia=.337
Depth of thread=.022
28 Threads per inch
Pitch Dia.=.360
Size of 1/16 BPST
28 threads per inch
Major Dia=.304
Minor Dia=.258
Depth of thread=.022
Pitch Dia.=.281
To give Reference....
1/8 NPT Sizes are
maj dia=.370
27 TPI
and 1/16 NPT
Maj Dia.=.285
27 TPI
Lastly, If you have a decent sample of this, i can whip some out within a day, if you can't get anywhere with matching up these sizes. Let me know
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| elmroc |
Posted on 07/30/09 - 8:19 AM
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Guys,
if a few of you need this, and are coming up empty, if one of you can send me a good working sample, i can make this up for those who need it.
Just let me know
John(elmroc)
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| tkhvdh |
Posted on 07/30/09 - 11:59 AM
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Mark and John, My order has not arrived as of 3:00 EST.
How was it delivered?
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| tkhvdh |
Posted on 07/30/09 - 7:19 PM
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elmroc wrote:
Guys,
if a few of you need this, and are coming up empty, if one of you can send me a good working sample, i can make this up for those who need it.
Just let me know
John(elmroc)
I can mail you the part I have if this new plug does not work when I get it, Part should be here Friday but I am leaving camping and will get back to you and Mark. I have some more photos if you want I can email them.
Thanks John and Mark,
TKHVDH
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| elmroc |
Posted on 07/31/09 - 5:52 AM
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Guys,
Let me know, and i will make these up for you.
Throw me a PM, and i will get you my address to get them made.
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| tkhvdh |
Posted on 08/03/09 - 8:29 AM
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The parts arrived and it is too large a diameter.
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| tkhvdh |
Posted on 08/05/09 - 2:13 PM
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elmroc wrote:
Guys,
Let me know, and i will make these up for you.
Throw me a PM, and i will get you my address to get them made.
John, The plug I removed and two replacements (wrong size) were Express Mailed to you.
Many thanks for your kind help.
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| elmroc |
Posted on 08/06/09 - 7:16 AM
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i'll look out for them, and get them squared away.
When i get them, i'll inspec to determine their exact size spec, and post here.
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| elmroc |
Posted on 08/07/09 - 10:58 AM
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OK Guys….i got the plug that Tom sent.
It’s not NPT, It’s not NPS, it’s not BPTS or BPS….
Still working on identification.
Measured up as the following sizes….
Diameter @ Taper Big end: .305 dia.
Diameter @ Taper Small end: .283
Pitch: 27 TPI
Thread Depth .022
Overall length: .292
Stay tuned guys.
John
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| elmroc |
Posted on 08/10/09 - 10:24 AM
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ok Guys.....
Here's the verdict.
this plug is a 1/16-27 NPT, 7/8 taper flush seal plug.
Basically, it's identical to a standard 1/6-NPT pipe size, but having a more aggresive 7/8 taper per foot, which allows this plug to seal out on the last 1-2 threads, creating a flush mounted sealed plug
I hope this helps anyone who needs help with it. If the admins want to put a link to this info for future owners, or a link to my contact info, Admins can please contact me.
Happy whalering.....
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| tkhvdh |
Posted on 08/12/09 - 1:28 PM
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elmroc wrote:
ok Guys.....
Here's the verdict.
this plug is a 1/16-27 NPT, 7/8 taper flush seal plug.
Basically, it's identical to a standard 1/6-NPT pipe size, but having a more aggresive 7/8 taper per foot, which allows this plug to seal out on the last 1-2 threads, creating a flush mounted sealed plug
I hope this helps anyone who needs help with it. If the admins want to put a link to this info for future owners, or a link to my contact info, Admins can please contact me.
Happy whalering.....
Elmroc,
The Express Mail just arrived a few minutes ago.
I opened the pack and just installed the new part. It fits her perfect and that is just what it needed. Should I put some sealer on it?
THANK YOU from all of us to a great Whaler friend.
Mark Sr,
I am mailing you several plugs for your T/T motor courtesy of Elmroc.
Will go to Post Office in the a.m.
Does anyone else have this problem with t/t plug?
"Whaler Owners never give up"
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| Mark Sr |
Posted on 08/19/09 - 5:38 PM
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Tom/John,
Got my hands on the delivery today. Screwed the plug right in and started to add fluid. It is taking quite a bit, and I need to freshen up on the proper fill/bleed process and buy more fluid.
I need to buy a couple minor parts to re-assemble properly, as I had almost finished removing the entire t/t assembly and some plastic pieces were damaged. Luckily these minor parts have p/#s.
Thanks to all who commented on this post, and members like tkhvdh and elmroc are what makes this forum invaluable.
-Mark Sr
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| tkhvdh |
Posted on 08/20/09 - 7:12 PM
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Mark Sr wrote:
Tom/John,
Got my hands on the delivery today. Screwed the plug right in and started to add fluid. It is taking quite a bit, and I need to freshen up on the proper fill/bleed process and buy more fluid.
I need to buy a couple minor parts to re-assemble properly, as I had almost finished removing the entire t/t assembly and some plastic pieces were damaged. Luckily these minor parts have p/#s.
Thanks to all who commented on this post, and members like tkhvdh and elmroc are what makes this forum invaluable.
-Mark Sr
TO EVERYONE AT WhalerCentral,
PLEASE fellow Whaler owners note the kindness and generosity of elmroc (John) who came to the rescue of fellow Whalers in need.
Elmroc used his expertise to solve a problem and come up with a solution. His going above and beyond the call of duty is what makes all Whaler owners a proud group.
The Whaler Central gang is one big family with relatives all over the world.
No strangers, just friends like elmroc.
He never gave up the ship.
TKH
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| elmroc |
Posted on 08/21/09 - 5:07 AM
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THanks for the kind words guys.
Glad i can help you guys out!
Enjoy the rest of your boating season!
John
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| Mark Sr |
Posted on 08/21/09 - 7:29 AM
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I got my t/t system flushed out good last night. Got it full and was just not having luck pressurizing the unit. Glanced at the manual where it said "fastrac system will not work properly w/ manual release valve open". I remembered that I had unscrewed it to lift the motor all the way up a few weeks back. I ran outside and tightened it up and I now have a fully operating system. Just in time for Hurricane Bill's waves to shake up the Bay.
Thanks again guys,
Edited by Mark Sr on 08/21/09 - 7:30 AM
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| tkhvdh |
Posted on 08/23/09 - 4:30 PM
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Spent the day completing the following on my 17 Montauk:
Installed new plug (Thanks elmroc) with locktite
Filled T/T with fluid
Ran T/T several up and down cycles, added more fluid
Routed wires from new T/T motor to maintain clearance
All old gas emptied from tank and fresh fuel in tank
Fresh oil
Sparkplugs pulled, cleaned, and replaced
New battery and box installed
Fuel lines cleaned and new fuel filter
Water ears hooked up and fired motor up.
Ran great for a few minutes then died out.
Appears there is air getting into fuel line.
May be coming from connection at fuel tank or bad bulb?
Anyone had this situation?
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| ioptfm |
Posted on 08/23/09 - 5:30 PM
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May be elementary, but is the arrow on the fuel line bulb pointing towards the motor?
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| tkhvdh |
Posted on 08/23/09 - 6:00 PM
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ioptfm wrote:
May be elementary, but is the arrow on the fuel line bulb pointing towards the motor?
Hey Tom,
Good thought, yes the bulb arrow and the fuel filter arrow are all pointing to motor. Your input is always welcome as you never know just what it may be with an outboard.
I think I can hear some air from around fittings. When clearing out the fuel lines I may have hurt the fittings, just not positive. I did check the pick up tube in tank and it does not appear clogged.
Like your 15, what a great boat.
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| tkhvdh |
Posted on 08/26/09 - 7:42 AM
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RUNNING/ HAS IDLE PROBLEM 100 HP Johnson OMC 1993
Yesterday I bought two new fuel line fittings for OMC. Had heard air sound when trying to get prime.
Removed the in line filter and bulb then held a prime. Did not have to use my two new fittings. Think air was getting into filter?
Boat fired on first try this morning and ran great with throttle up but doesn't want to stay running at idle. Blowing lots of smoke. (old oil in line)
Water pump is showing a good stream.
BTW T/T is operating thanks to ELMROC.
Any suggestions on idle ????
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| Bo Neato |
Posted on 08/26/09 - 8:35 AM
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tkhvdh wrote:
Any suggestions on idle ????
I'm not familiar with your 100, but my 90 SPL had an idle "problem" when I first got it which I found to be a choke issue. It has a primer solenoid that has a bypass switch for emergency pull starting. It bypasses the carbs and dumps fuel right in. The switch wasn't fully closed resulting in a rough and smoky idle. It seems you have a VRO so you have a different fuel pump/choke system, but if you've looked at everything else it might be worth some investigation.
I'm not an outboard mechanic, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. /jk
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