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Derwd24	#41  Posted on 11/25/08 - 7:22 AM
Member Posts: 1607 Comments: 9 Joined: 05/09/07	Curious about the deck caulking, is there a certain kind that's preferred/recommended best? Dave - 1983 Outrage 22
In2Deep	#42  Posted on 11/25/08 - 8:35 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 177 Comments: 0 Joined: 08/14/08	Thanks Kamie,plan is to pull out some fuel,if its ok Ill replace the hoses and caulking. If there is water in the fuel ,then Ill take it from there. The previous owner installed a fuel/water separator mabey I could judt check for the presence of water in there? Dave the OEM caulking is still available from Twin Cities Marine,speak with Sue. Thanks for all the input.
Phil T	#43  Posted on 11/25/08 - 10:48 AM
Administrator Personal Page Personal Album Project Albums Posts: 7043 Comments: 6 Joined: 03/26/05	Jerry - Replace the separator filter then pump some fuel out (~1 gallon) and then check the jar and the filter contents. You are looking for water and crud. 1992 Outrage 17 I 2019 E-TEC 90, Viper 17 2+ 2018 Load Rite Elite 18280096VT
In2Deep	#44  Posted on 11/26/08 - 8:04 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 177 Comments: 0 Joined: 08/14/08	Well I pulled of the hardware on the port side teak gunwhale cap and began the sanding process,it looks better already,makes a ton ao fine dust that covers everything! Ill pull off the filter fuel/water tomorrow to check for water/dirt in the tank.
In2Deep	#45  Posted on 11/29/08 - 10:53 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 177 Comments: 0 Joined: 08/14/08	Well I got a chance to pull the boat out and start the motors,the port motor started right up and ran dvery smoothly, the starboard one started after about 5 mins then had an erratic idle,it was kinda hunting between 600 and 1200rpm. So I gave it a little throttle so I could fogg the motor and did so. I found a broken plastic piecs on the carbarator linkage. Ill replace it for the spring. Hopefully that was causing the irregular idle? I started out this morning with the intention og replacing the fuel filler and vent hoses. The filler one is frayed and looks pretty bad eventhough I dont smell gas. I worked off most of the hose from the tank and then gas started comeing out. I then realized the gauge said full and the boat wasent level. Whats the best way to get this and the vent hose out and the new ones in? Im sure I could get the old oud with some muscle but getting the new one in is going to be a pita! Any suggestions,raise thee deck a little? Iwill be replacing the caulking anyway? Thanks,Happy T-Day!
kamie	#46  Posted on 11/29/08 - 1:14 PM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 2975 Comments: 3 Joined: 11/04/05	The caulk color you want is beige, not almond. The caulk I used was OSI Window, Siding and roof exterior caulk. Since it seems your tank is full to the top, I would use the primer bull and pump out about 5 gallons. You can always use it in the lawnmower or dump it back in the boat when your done. Then pull the fill hose off first. It is the largest and will give you room to work the vent hose up thru the opening. Use the old vent hose to pull a line thru or you can get a double hose barb and hook the old / new hoses together and use the old one to pull the new one. Your trick is to get the new hose up and over the tank straps. This is the only shot i have posted of the Vent Hose If you loosen the bolts you can get a hair more room, but remember the screws on the outside don't hold the cover on, there are bolts in the center. If you try to pull up too much on the cover from the outside you will crack it, so be careful. It is most helpful for getting the fill hose onto the spout than getting the vent hose pulled thru.
Derwd24	#47  Posted on 11/29/08 - 4:26 PM
Member Posts: 1607 Comments: 9 Joined: 05/09/07	Good tip on the OSI brand Kamie. I've used it before on housing app's but didn't think to use it on the deck. It seems to be above average quality. Dave - 1983 Outrage 22
In2Deep	#48  Posted on 11/29/08 - 4:43 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 177 Comments: 0 Joined: 08/14/08	Kamie thanks for the tips,is it necessary to put caulk on the screws (deck) when I put them back in? Thanks again.
kamie	#49  Posted on 11/29/08 - 4:43 PM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 2975 Comments: 3 Joined: 11/04/05	sikaflex 201 is the other caulk I have used to seal the deck joints. You need to find it in tan to match the gelcoat. Finding the correct color is the hard part. Most places have almond since it is a standard tub/tile color.
In2Deep	#50  Posted on 11/29/08 - 5:55 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 177 Comments: 0 Joined: 08/14/08	I cant believe the hose wasent leaking,its falling apart as I pull it out! So basically you took out the fuel filler hose first then took out the vent hose then put in the vent new hose followed by the filler hose? And you unscrewed the port side deck screws and lifted the deck with the console just enough to do all this? Kamie,did you caulk the screw holes when putting back the deck? Twin Cities has the Oem caulk,is it necessary? thanks again!
kamie	#51  Posted on 11/30/08 - 5:41 AM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 2975 Comments: 3 Joined: 11/04/05	Jerry, I actually took the easy way and removed the deck. That was because I was replacing the console and the motor. The instructions I gave above are based on what I was planning to do before I had to pull up the deck. It was how a couple other folks had done theirs. Originally my boat had a T-Top so I wanted to replace the hoses without pulling up the deck, then the outboard died and things progressed from there. Just curious, what is the HIN on your hull? The OSI caulk is the OEM, it's the color that is OEM. If your ordering stuff from Twin Cities, you might as well get it from them. I can't find either the beige OSI or the Tan sikaflex anywhere locally, it always has to be ordered. Most boats these days are white, not tan and if they are colored, they use white caulk. Wendy, welcome to WC. Stern Seats can be ordered from some of the site sponsers. Click their links in the top right corner of the screen. If you have questions about your boat, you should start a new thread.
In2Deep	#52  Posted on 11/30/08 - 9:18 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 177 Comments: 0 Joined: 08/14/08	just to confirm the OEM fuel filler hose is 1.5 " correct? Do you happen to remember the size of the vent hose? HIN# is , BWC6615AM83C. Thanks.
kamie	#53  Posted on 11/30/08 - 1:40 PM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 2975 Comments: 3 Joined: 11/04/05	5/8 OD Type A1 about 7 to 9 foot long depending on how it gets routed. Fill hose is 1.5 inch by 2 feet.
In2Deep	#54  Posted on 12/03/08 - 12:11 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 177 Comments: 0 Joined: 08/14/08	well I got the vent hose in ,but I cant get the fill hose in its way too tight,absolutely no wiggle room,any suggestions? Its in under the deck but impossible to get any movement to get it over the male tank fitting? seems like theres not enough room between the top part of the male tank fitting and the deck to allow the hose on? are we sure its a 1.5" diameter hose thats OEM? Thanks.
kamie	#55  Posted on 12/03/08 - 5:52 PM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 2975 Comments: 3 Joined: 11/04/05	Two things the first is the newer hoses are a larger outside diameter than the original ones. Have you tried pulling up the tank cover to give you room to slide the hose onto the male tank fitting. The second is to possibly sand away some of the underside of the tank cover to give you more room. I assume you are trying to get the hose attached to the tank first then make the bend to the fill? underside of tank cover
In2Deep	#56  Posted on 12/03/08 - 7:40 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 177 Comments: 0 Joined: 08/14/08	well I got it done, but iyt was a pita! I ended up raising the deck about a 1/2" by removing the screws ,then I passed a 3" wide nylon towing strap aroung the deck fron the aera where the hoses exit to the opening where the male tank fitting is,connected it to a come along that was attached to a beam in the garage,then I slowly cranked till I had enough room to get the hose on. While I had it raised I passed the vent hose and then lowered it. I couldnt get those spring like things back around the vent hose,I suppose they prevent it from collapsing,any tips? Oh and the filler hose is 1.5" but it required about 3 ' not 2' and the vent was 5/8" hose and required about 8'.Next I need to resecure the deck with the screws ,recaulk,then tackle the console.