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problems with my ETEC!!!! say its not true!!
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| Blue_Northern |
Posted on 09/08/08 - 1:59 PM
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Duf and Derwd24 - Thanks for answering the questions I had. I feel much better going with the 150 now. I have already purchased the new BRP binnacle and started thinking Yamaha for a bit there.
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| TexasOutrage |
Posted on 09/08/08 - 3:55 PM
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Rob,
It is never too late to think Yamaha.....just kidding. Weight should be a deciding factor for a flats boat.
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 09/08/08 - 4:05 PM
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Rob,
I bought all new Tech Series Gauges and the Tachometer with System Check....
[img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/articles/System_Check/Tech_Series_Instruments_t1.jpg[/img]
I bought a new Ignition Key Switch Assembly, not installed until I get the new motors....
[img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/articles/key_switches/Key_Switch_176408.jpg[/img]
I also bought a new BRP Dual Binnacle Mount Engine Control not installed yet....
http://www.whalercentral.com/images/E...nnacle.jpg
Now all I need is the new 130 or 150 hp E-Tec engine and a new 9.9 E-Tec kicker.
The 130 and the 9.9 are not out yet....
Just waiting for now...
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| kamie |
Posted on 09/08/08 - 5:19 PM
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Joe,
not sure they are going to bring out the 130HP any time soon.
Rob,
The 150HP E-Tec is a great engine, same block and weight as the 175HP. It is so quiet, you really can hold a conversation at speed. While you guys down south don't have to worry, there is nothing cooler than pushing a button to winterize the engine and then walking away.
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| Derwd24 |
Posted on 09/08/08 - 7:49 PM
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Joe,
Seems like you're leaning towards the 130 over the 150, any particular reason?
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 09/08/08 - 9:37 PM
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kamie,
Lots of reports that the 130 is supposed to be out soon. But, those are just reports.
Derwd,
The 130 is lighter than the 150 and only 4 cylinders instead of 6... Hopefully just a little cheaper to maintain and a cheaper purchase price...
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| Blue_Northern |
Posted on 09/09/08 - 8:31 AM
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Hey Joe I actually thought about the 130 as well. I really think you will be able to buy a demo or late model new 150 for around the same price. I am not really a speed fanatic but last weekend I was in a friends rig (not a Whaler) that would push 50+ mph. Man you can get around fast! My idea is not to always run like that but if you need it go ahead -- I also thought I could get better fuel economy with the 150 running fewer RPM than the 130. At end of the day it is really going to come down to the weight of my hull when I am done with the restoration work. Originally I had even thought 115 but do not think I would be happy with the performance.
I ended up with the new shinny single binnacle with key by BRP. Very cool looking! 
Rob
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| Blue_Northern |
Posted on 09/09/08 - 8:34 AM
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Hey John I really like the Yamaha but do not think I want the extra 60 pounds back there. I also think I will get a better hole shot with the e-Tec. Did you end up heading to the coast Sunday? We left out by noon and it was already windy.
Rob
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| duf |
Posted on 09/09/08 - 8:51 AM
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Joe, what did the new set of Tech Guages cost you?
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| duf |
Posted on 09/11/08 - 1:59 PM
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[quote]kamie wrote:
Joe,
not sure they are going to bring out the 130HP any time soon.
Well, i guess we'll find out shortly how good my "insider" info is, as the 130 HP is supposed to be released next week on the 18th.
Duf
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 09/11/08 - 3:45 PM
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duf,
That's the rumors I have been hearing..
I bought a 'lot' of gauges new on eBay which included the Speed, trim, volt and hour meter... Don't remember what the 'lot' costs...
I later bought a new System Check tach for $110
You have the next grade better set of gauges already on your boat I thought.
Your gauges show a lot more info with the push of a button.
duf....
tip..... don't forget to end the quote with [/quote] which you are missing above.
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| Derwd24 |
Posted on 09/11/08 - 4:28 PM
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Are you guys familiar with the System Check Commander Tach? It's analog with a digital display below it, says it can show engine hours, fuel level, fuel flow (gph or lph), total or trip fuel used, and can calculate fuel left in tank. Seems to be between the standard System Check and the I-Command.
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 09/11/08 - 4:39 PM
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Derwd,
Check out the article I wrote in the article section under OMC/BRP Engine Gauges.
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...icle_id=43
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| Derwd24 |
Posted on 09/11/08 - 5:05 PM
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Thanks Joe, that's a great article that I've referenced before. Got it now, thanks. Here's a link to the PDF guide for the Commander
Commander
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| duf |
Posted on 09/11/08 - 5:30 PM
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Ah Joe, would you believe i do it intentionally just to keep you on your toes?  All kidding aside, right now my guages aren't telling me anything other then RPM's, Water pressure, and thats it. My Mechanic says they are old analog guages, and its all they can do. Part of it i know is bull as it used to tell me my GPH in addition to the overtemp alarm and now since i did the motor switch it does not, which tells me i've exceeded the limits of his expertise.
When i had the water pressure switch installed they were supposed to remove the water temp switch, which never worked. Instead they replaced my tilt switch which was broken (needle) but working. So bottom line, all i have is my RPM guage and my water pressure.
So, i have 4 or so different switches, and only half of them work, and i plan on upgrading all the obove this winter (on my list of things to do during the two weeks of winter this year). I tried to look up your Tech Gauges you said you had, and came up nada on a web search, so am looking for the latest and greatest to do between now and spring. Who knows, may follow Texas Whalers advice and throw a 115 on with a 115 kicker and if i do, would definately need a good backbone of gauges telling me whats going on!! 
Duf
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 09/11/08 - 5:50 PM
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duf,
Here are the current gauge series available for the new E-Tecs.
1. Tech Series
2. Commader Series
3. I-Command Series
I stayed with the easy and cheapest gauges... The Tech Series.
For the other series, you need controllers and other boxes to connect to. I just don't need all those fancy features on my boat as I don't go out very far or very often in the ocean.
If you read a comment I posted on the bottom of the above article I linked to, you will see the gauges I like and recommend.
1. Tach with System Check... This has all the idiot lights and warning horn
2. Voltmeter
3. Trim & Tilt
4. Hour Meter
5. Water Temp (if you have room, I don't...)
The Tech Series is still available from any Evinrude dealer and is still a current line. Your E-Tec wiring harness will plug right into the Tach and a couple other of the Tech Series gauges. Very simple to install and no buttons to push to try and get to other features.. I like it simple.... I have a hard enough time with my cell phone.... 
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| Blue_Northern |
Posted on 09/12/08 - 7:21 AM
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Duf - Do so reading on the I-Command line. They have not been very successful with these and I have heard several friends pulling them and going back to the Tech series analog gauges. I think there are a lot of dealers that just do not know how to set them up properly. I am going to keep it simple and put the Tech on the outrage.
Tach with System Check
Fuel Gauge
Tilt
Water Pressure
Hour Meter
Keep it simple. 
Rob
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| duf |
Posted on 09/12/08 - 7:30 AM
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I'm with you and am a firm believer in the KISS theory. Keep It Simple Stupid! I'm reading as we speak and will do my homework and see what is not hooked up on my main RPM gauge. Frankly, I’m not even sure which type it is so I will look at Joe and Dave’s posts to see if mine matches one of those and go from there. In the meantime am going to get another tilt trim gauge and possibly a temp gauge, already have a volt meter, so I should be good to go.
Duf
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| kamie |
Posted on 09/12/08 - 10:09 AM
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Not sure how successful they have been with I-Command digital. I believe the I-Command classics had issues both with setup and some early gauge fogging issues. I can tell you that I-command digital is very simple to setup and gives you lots and lots of information.
If anyone wants to go I-Command digital let me know and if you can plug in a light or hook up a stereo/vcr you can have it done. If you can't hook up a stereo/vcr, then find the neighborhood 10 year old that can.
I should probably write up the process of hooking up the I-Command digital gauges. I will look to see if I still have all the photo's from my install.
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| duf |
Posted on 09/18/08 - 12:11 PM
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Well, hate to add to this post but i took my boat/motor to the dealer today and he installed the new blow by valve spring which reduces the spring tension from 10 lbs to 7 lbs. that coupled with the new oversized intakes should have solved my over temp problems.........it didn't. I took the boat out late this morning when i got back, launched and within 5 mins i got the OVR TMP alarm. I cruised a little further, and got it again, turned around, and two more alarms before i got back to the boat ramp. So, will be taking the boat/motor 40 plus miles back to the dealer and am getting very fustrated as i'm not getting any closeure here.
Unfortunately, more to come. 
Duf
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