70 Yamaha 15' standard
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Joe Kriz |
Posted on 03/11/13 - 2:53 PM
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I don't know of anyway to upload a photo to any place on the Internet from a smartphone or tablet.
I know you can "Share" photos using email, Facebook, etc., but not actually upload them to places like photobucket, picasaweb, etc.
I have looked from some FTP apps but haven't found any.
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huckelberry145 |
Posted on 03/11/13 - 3:13 PM
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I appreciate your help Joe. Now that i have the hull upside down, I can see ridges all the way across the width of the hull fore to aft. I haven't seen many other members claiming of having a 15' standard. Kinda makes me wonder if most were taken back under warranty.
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Posted on 03/11/13 - 3:21 PM
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Email me the photos and I will host them.
Here are the photos:
https://picasaweb.google.com/CascoBay...0734338114
https://picasaweb.google.com/CascoBay...3270822562
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huckelberry145 |
Posted on 03/11/13 - 5:06 PM
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Thanks Phil.
The pictures might be hard to read but there is a ridge port to starboard varying in thickness and width, except on the centerline of the keel. There are ridges all up and down the hull from fore to aft.
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Posted on 03/11/13 - 5:37 PM
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From what I see you are going to have to build it up to flush it out. that will mean roughing up the bottom laying a layer or two of glass then some fairing gel coating. Its very doable.
On the 15 standard question. the hulls are all the same. The interior lay out is where the name standard came from.
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huckelberry145 |
Posted on 03/11/13 - 5:48 PM
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Bake wrote:
On the 15 standard question. the hulls are all the same. The interior lay out is where the name standard came from.
This boat was made very cheaply, I found a lot of things that support that statement after i bought it. I heard from an unreliable source that when boats are removed from the molds too soon these problems happen.
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wing15601 |
Posted on 03/11/13 - 7:29 PM
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That boat is 14 years or so old. I don't believe it's been like that since it came from the factory. After reading all your posts I'm wondering if the boat was on a trailer supported by bunks without any keel support and with a lot of weight inside, like full of water for a long time. It seems the only way that the conditions you describe could happen. It seems the foam has been compressed.
I winter in Ft. Myers and summer in St. Joseph, Michigan. It’s now about 12 years since I’ve joined this group. I gave my 1972 whaler to my daughter and sold the 17’. Bought an O’Day 28 sailboat and sailed on Lake Michigan. Yesterday I bought a 2005 130 Sport. |
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huckelberry145 |
Posted on 03/11/13 - 7:37 PM
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That was my first thought too, but that doesn't explain the other ridges the rest of the way up. If that was the case, there would only be depressions where it rests against the bunks.
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Posted on 03/11/13 - 7:59 PM
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Well, it may not have even been on a trailer, it could have been sitting on a pile of bricks but the most important thing for you to think about is how can it be fixed. It can be fixed, too. I wish I knew enough to tell you how. I'm sure everyone who reads this thread has an idea. I would aggressively sand the affected area with coarse sandpaper and fill and fare till it gives the profile you want. I don't know what to use as a filler, well again, I have my own ideas, but they may be wrong. I'm sorry you have this problem and hope it doesn't sour you to all Whalers. You are very discouraged now and when that happens its sometimes best to walk away for a while. We'll be here when you get back and maybe you'll be able to look at the problem from a different angle.
I winter in Ft. Myers and summer in St. Joseph, Michigan. It’s now about 12 years since I’ve joined this group. I gave my 1972 whaler to my daughter and sold the 17’. Bought an O’Day 28 sailboat and sailed on Lake Michigan. Yesterday I bought a 2005 130 Sport. |
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huckelberry145 |
Posted on 03/12/13 - 7:35 AM
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Bake wrote:
On the 15 standard question. the hulls are all the same. The interior lay out is where the name standard came from.
Bake, this hull is only the same in shape, not quality. There are very obvious clamp marks of some sort along the gunnells along with other defects in the hull I mentioned. I can find only one 15' standard mentioned on another site and the owner has a thread complaining of the boat porpoising.
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huckelberry145 |
Posted on 03/15/13 - 10:15 AM
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With just me, 3 gallons of gas, a hydrafoil on the a/v plate and the motor two holes up the boat finally ran great. I still haven't ran with another person and a full tank so i hope everything stays the same when I do.
Thanks for all of the advice, Bill
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jamesgt727 |
Posted on 03/15/13 - 10:52 AM
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Huck,
The cupping that you see on your particular hull, may not be a manufacturing or design flaw alone. That type hull depression on the starboard side looks the hull was sitting on trailer or davit bunks that were too short for her. Make sure that is corrected or not the case when you fix this issue, the trailer bunks need to extend comfortably beyond the transom. I feel you on this. I knew before I even owned a 15 that hull mods were necessary. Extending the strakes to the transom fixes half of the problem and lessens the area that needs to be corrected immensely. I can say that in my particular project boat, the bottom work and modifications, accounted for the biggest portion of work, we joked about how the hull lacked symmetry. Luckily, we knew it going into the project.
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huckelberry145 |
Posted on 03/15/13 - 11:01 AM
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Actually, the trailer is fine. The bunks stick out three inches past the transom. I can tell by a watermark on the underside that The previous owner had this hull on one of those drive on boat docks. I think that it put just enough deviation in the hull to cause a problem.
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Bake |
Posted on 03/15/13 - 11:15 AM
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Just to clarify for others who may read this in the future, is the motor is now mounted in the second hole from the top? I think some would call that one hole up.
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huckelberry145 |
Posted on 03/15/13 - 2:11 PM
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I moved it back up to two holes up. That would put the a/v plate a little above level with the bottom of the boat.
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