View Thread
Before Posting, Please Read Our Posting Guidelines Below.

1. Use the full 4 digit year for everything you are asking your question about. Example: 1962, 1988, 2000, 2011
2. Include the correct name of your Whaler model. Example: Montauk 17, Montauk 170, Outrage 26, Outrage 260
3. Include the length when necessary. Example: 16, 17, 18, 20, 22
4. Do not post your email address anywhere on this site as it is already in your user profile.

 Print Thread
Why flood the boat??
Canibul
#21 Print Post
Posted on 11/26/06 - 11:01 AM
Member

Posts: 36
Comments: 0
Joined: 02/02/06

obviously your Outrages are dryer at the dock than my Montauk 17. If its sitting still, with the plug out, the seawater will be about an inch or so deep over the deck right at the transom. The 'puddle' reaches right up to the back edge of the gas tank under the seat.

 
Joe Kriz
#22 Print Post
Posted on 11/26/06 - 11:13 AM
User Avatar
Site Owner
Personal Page
Personal Album
Photo Albums
Project Albums

Posts: 11447
Comments: 452
Joined: 03/18/05

Canibul,

I owned a Montauk 17 for 15 years and found the same situation as you.
I always had my plug IN on the Montauk.

I installed a Rule-Mate 500 on mine and my buddies, Montauk.
I don't think they make the RM500 anymore but the RM750 is the same physical size.
They fit just perfectly in the sump and have both a manual and automatic position.
Rule-Mate Bilge Pumps

I used the 500 or the 750 in the Montauks because of the 3/4" hose diameter.
I have also used the 750 or the 1100 on the Outrage series Whalers.
The 1100 series uses the larger, 1 1/8" hose so you have to make sure you have enough room to run this size hose.

If you don't have a Whaler switch already on your console like the one in the photo section on this site: http://www.whalercentral.com/photogal...?photo=324

Then you could add a bilge switch from Rule:
Rule Switiches


Edited by Joe Kriz on 09/29/07 - 10:51 AM
 
ballbuster
#23 Print Post
Posted on 11/26/06 - 11:45 AM
Member

Posts: 4
Comments: 0
Joined: 11/25/06

Its not the pump that caused the problem, it was the switch. We tend to fish into December and I've seen them freeze up. I installed the pump just for convenience when running. No need to pull the plug. I fish Barnegat inlet and its gets pretty ugly. Its not unusual to take water over the gunnels, stern, or any place for that matter. My boat drains very quickly. There is a hinged door on top of the transom the opens to dump large amounts of water into the motor well and out the transom.


Edited by ballbuster on 11/26/06 - 11:49 AM
 
Canibul
#24 Print Post
Posted on 11/26/06 - 11:58 AM
Member

Posts: 36
Comments: 0
Joined: 02/02/06

Not sure I understand the need for both the Auto and Manual, with an Off position switch.

Seems On and Off would do it. If theres water, turning in ON will turn it on, since its sensing water. Should turn itself off. if theres no water, pump would not turn itself on with switch on.

If you dont want to drain battery, turn power off. If you want the pump on, turn it on. If you dont trust it to automatically sense water, why would you want it in the boat?

Seems its an On or Off situation to me....but as I started out saying...maybe I dont understand?



 
Joe Kriz
#25 Print Post
Posted on 11/26/06 - 12:09 PM
User Avatar
Site Owner
Personal Page
Personal Album
Photo Albums
Project Albums

Posts: 11447
Comments: 452
Joined: 03/18/05

Good Point....

However, the automatic float can get stuck open or closed due to debris, fish scales, etc...
Therefore, the manual switch could be used for emergency use.

Also, a person may not want to pump out a live fishwell automatically. They may want to leave the fishwell full of water. In this case, the manual switch could be used to control the height of the water in the livewell.... If you put the pump on automatic, then the fishwell would empty of water and kill your bait fish....

Of course if you are using a bilge pump just in the sump area, then you wouldn't need a auto/manual switch on the console.
My Outrage 18' does not have a switch on the console. I have my Rule-Mate hooked directly to the battery with an inline fuse of the recommended size. My pump is always on automatic.
To turn it off, I have to remove or disassemble the inline fuse. This works OK but still a switch on the console is a good idea, then you could turn it off or use it manually should something happen to the automatic part of the system.

 
ballbuster
#26 Print Post
Posted on 11/26/06 - 12:19 PM
Member

Posts: 4
Comments: 0
Joined: 11/25/06

The auto pumps I was referring to are the one with a separate float switch. Not the sensor type. I guess it boils down to what suits your needs or preference. I do believe the later whalers do not drain as well as the early ones. At least with the outrages. The olders ones (1970's. early 1980's) seemed much simpler. Whaler probably should have kept it that way.

 
Jump to Forum:
Bookmark and Share
Today's Date & Time
November 26, 2024 - 8:17 AM
Visit our Sponsors
Specialty Marine - Parts and Accessories


Carver Covers - The Best Covers Under The Sun


Nauset Marine - Whaler Parts and Accessories


Wm. J. Mills and Co. - Boston Whaler Canvas



Click on logo to visit site
View all Sponsors Here
Users Online
Welcome
AuntiesMontauk
as the newest member

· Guests Online: 9
· Members Online: 0
· Total Members: 50,390
Login
Username

Password

Remember Me


Not a member yet?
Click here to register.

Forgotten your password?
Request a new one here.
Top 5 Models Posted
· Montauk 17 1,638
· Sport 13 1,366
· Outrage 18 556
· Nauset 16 402
· Sport 15 365

View all Models Here
Render time: 0.17 seconds Copyright WhalerCentral.com © 2003-2024 86,561,211 unique visits