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Repowering 13 and Undecided
OBXwhaler
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Posted on 09/06/09 - 5:06 AM
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Thanks, Joe, for the thought. The dealer never mentioned the 30 etec as an option. But would I get better performance from a Yamaha 25hp @ 105lbs as opposed to a Etec 30hp @ 177lbs? If you divide it out, the Etec is about 6lbs per horsepower and the Yamaha is 4lbs per horsepower, or stated another way the Etec is 50% heaver per horsepower than the Yamaha. This dealer represents both engine manufacturers. I do like the fact that the etec has the tilt and trim feature since the Roanoke Sound is shallow. Appreciate the continued thoughts.


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Posted on 09/06/09 - 7:39 AM
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I would go with the 30HP etec, it will be as quiet as the 40HP you have on there, carp 3, has the power tilt/trim and it should be a fast swap. All the dealer needs to do it unbolt the 40HP an bolt on the 30HP, adjust throttle cables and your back in the water.
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Posted on 09/07/09 - 5:36 PM
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Tough one. As I stated in an earlier reply Boston Whaler themselves told me...not over 200 lbs. I'm sure many do it but the fact is BWC said don't Personally I think the dealer should have known this. If he is an EXPERT in re-powering (and he should be) he should have access to data such as the appropriate weight range of engines matched with particular boats. I'd push him hard on this point and get the 30 including the price differential. Sounds to me like you have a safety issue and that should motivate him.

In regards to the power / wt ratio it doesn't quite work that way. The fact is the engine will be pushing the entire boat, not just itself. If you calculate power/wt in that regard the ratio of the Y25 and the E30 is the about same. I looked at the Etec also but the tilt mechanism appeared identical to the tilt on my 1992 E40 (189 lbs) and the tilt has been a weak point for me. Just didn't seem right that the tilt hadn't changed in 17 years.

Ive decided to go with the Honda 30 (178 Lbs). Pricey, but the 5 year warranty helps the confidence level. Good luck and tell us all what transpires.

 
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Good--no--great news!

I went right back to Manteo Marine and told them of the weight problem. While they were a little surprised, they expressed sincerity about making things "right" and, after a lot of discussion, they agreed to replace the engine with the 30hp Evinrude etec. Like a lot of marine dealers they are finding times tough. (As an aside, I think part of their motivation was they had the 40hp in inventory.) Anyway, I feel partly responsible for the decision since I had done a fair amount of research and went along with it. So they are willing to switch them out and give me a service credit towards future needs. Before going back I contacted some other Evinrude dealers in the Va Beach area to see what they said and I was really put off by their indifference about how to help me even if it meant I spent money with them! So not only am I glad Manteo Marine acted like gentlemen, I'm even more happy I didn't need to go elsewhere. The replacement 30HP is on order and I hope to have it in 2 weeks.

So if there is any lesson learned--DON"T EXCEED 200 LBS on this boat!

One question though: I can't seem to find out anywhere on the net the retail pricing on these engines. Does anyone have a source for that? It would help me assure I get the right credit.

Thank you, everyone, for your advice and support. The internet is a great place sometimes!

Todd
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the only place that advertises Evinrude prices is Ed's http://www.edsmarinesuperstore.com/ev...inrude.htm it looks like they don't have 30HP's in but call the for a price.

 
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Will do. many thanks.


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Posted on 09/14/09 - 6:10 PM
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OBX, make sure to come back and let us know how the 30 performed.

Thanks,

Chris

 
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"So if there is any lesson learned--DON"T EXCEED 200 LBS on this boat!"

I would say that is good advice, since the boat was designed back in the day when a 25 weighed 97lbs, and a 40 weighed 125lbs. My 25 4 stroke FI Merc/Tohatsu on my 13 footer weighs 157 lbs. I would not want to put more weight than that on the stern. I notice a difference in handling when I hang my 40 lb electric trolling motor an the kicker bracket,, but a hydrofoil really helps these low powered 13 footers.

In my mind the best outboard for a 13 footer is the 31.8 cu in 2 stroke 35hp Evinrude. but production was stopped on 2002. They were built since the late '70's.


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