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Rookie - Looking for advice - 190 Montauk good boat?
sbornstein	#21  Posted on 07/28/08 - 5:12 AM
Member Posts: 17 Comments: 0 Joined: 07/27/08	Hey also I have a two car garage I measured this morning is about 6 ft 5 inches up to the mechanical door opener in the middle of the garage. Any idea if the 170 would fit in there? The length is about 19-20 ft I think at least. I am wondering if that should also now be a consideration for winter storage if it would fit. Edited by sbornstein on 07/28/08 - 5:13 AM
Phil T	#22  Posted on 07/28/08 - 5:29 AM
Administrator Personal Page Personal Album Project Albums Posts: 7043 Comments: 6 Joined: 03/26/05	Typically you add 2' for the motor and 3-4' for the front of the trailer. My estimate would be 23' long for the 170. In addition to the height, you need to also consider the width of the door and the width of the boat on the trailer. 1992 Outrage 17 I 2019 E-TEC 90, Viper 17 2+ 2018 Load Rite Elite 18280096VT
sbornstein	#23  Posted on 07/28/08 - 2:59 PM
Member Posts: 17 Comments: 0 Joined: 07/27/08	yup I think there is no way it will fit but that is fine. Any idea what winterization costs to shrink wrap a boat etc? Say it was the 190.
Meridian	#24  Posted on 07/29/08 - 7:46 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 112 Comments: 0 Joined: 04/22/07	Regarding additional equipment: Since you are new to all of this I suggest purchasing from the dealer. While it is less expensive to purchase it yourself, you then have to install and calibrate it yourself or pay to have someone else do it. If the dealer does the work, they can fix it on their dime if there are any problems. If you havent done it before, drilling holes in the console, etc, can be an experience.
egerrity	#25  Posted on 07/29/08 - 8:01 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 439 Comments: 2 Joined: 07/11/07	Those are great points about the options. Dont let the prices scare you, many time there is alot more into these options with installation and parts. Concider a swim platform if they offer it on that size, it would be great for the kids. Inquire about the extended warantee's as well. Ed 1991 Montauk 17 - 2012 ETEC 90HP
TexasOutrage	#26  Posted on 07/29/08 - 2:28 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 246 Comments: 1 Joined: 02/16/08	I think CBO mentioned it earlier....I would recommend you look at a good used 17' Whaler for a first boat. If you decide you don't like it, you can sell it without taking a loss. If you need more space, look at an 18 Outrage. Both are great boats.
sbornstein	#27  Posted on 07/29/08 - 5:49 PM
Member Posts: 17 Comments: 0 Joined: 07/27/08	I wonder if I should take a look at the Outrage. Any idea if the 190 between the two is much of a price difference? I am wondering if the V front makes it a better boat for deep ocean water where I am in MA.
Phil T	#28  Posted on 07/29/08 - 6:28 PM
Administrator Personal Page Personal Album Project Albums Posts: 7043 Comments: 6 Joined: 03/26/05	S - Being a first time boat purchaser can be difficult. I would use the analogy, it is like buying a car. Figure out what you want to do and how much you want to spend. That will lead you to the model you want/need. It is a question of what type of water (lakes/river or ocean).......you said both activity......................................you said fishing and pleasure passenger load..........................you said "fish with the guys" and family budget New or used Tow vehicle limit Before you get serious on a 170 Montauk, 190 Montauk or a 190 Outrage, if you can figure out (privately) what you want to spend and if you want a new or used boat it will narrow down your choices. A used Montauk 170 is ~ 15 to 20 k A new 170 Montauk is > 26k A new 190 Montauk is > 35k A new 190 Outrage is > 40k All are really great boats. It is hard to decide but money is the great equalizer! For snotty ocean conditions like you can have, the Outrage 190 handles the best of the 3 I listed. The classic Outrage 18 is also good as are several other 18/19 models. Edited by Phil T on 07/29/08 - 6:31 PM 1992 Outrage 17 I 2019 E-TEC 90, Viper 17 2+ 2018 Load Rite Elite 18280096VT
sbornstein	#29  Posted on 07/31/08 - 9:40 AM
Member Posts: 17 Comments: 0 Joined: 07/27/08	Thanks to all that gave me great info. I am overall leaning towards the 190 Montauk but will see how it goes
sbornstein	#30  Posted on 08/03/08 - 8:44 AM
Member Posts: 17 Comments: 0 Joined: 07/27/08	Hey guys is there a site where I can price out a boat with options? I think my plan may be to go to the Boston boat show and try low balling a price there in October for the 190. I want to see though what is a ballpark figure so I can know where to come in at. I am going to go for the 190 Montauk, Verado 135HP upgrade engine, VH FM radio, GPS, Fish Finder and the bimini if that is the thing that blocks the sun overhead. Thanks for any last advice you guys really helped me narrow in on things.
Phil T	#31  Posted on 08/03/08 - 9:01 AM
Administrator Personal Page Personal Album Project Albums Posts: 7043 Comments: 6 Joined: 03/26/05	If you go to Link to Build yours you can "build" your ideal boat with MSRP pricing. Gives you a ballpark. With the soft market, the final price should, in my opinion be the maximum you should pay. I have read about members getting the dealer to throw in a fishing package or other items. 1992 Outrage 17 I 2019 E-TEC 90, Viper 17 2+ 2018 Load Rite Elite 18280096VT
sbornstein	#32  Posted on 08/04/08 - 7:21 AM
Member Posts: 17 Comments: 0 Joined: 07/27/08	excellent. I am thinking more about the Verado engine and I am thinking if I amn not going to be doing water skiing or tubing etc. why bother with the extra horse power for 4-5 K more. Would you agree?