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Making Console Rod Holders
cooperphilip	#21  Posted on 06/19/08 - 8:49 AM
Member Posts: 7 Comments: 0 Joined: 05/15/08	Paul, I appreciate your response. It would be great if you are able to post a picture. How far does the flaps on your cushion extend? As I said, the flaps on the set I purchased from Specialty exend only 1 1/2 inches. Thanks, Phil
Phil T	#22  Posted on 06/19/08 - 8:49 AM
Administrator Personal Page Personal Album Project Albums Posts: 7043 Comments: 6 Joined: 03/26/05	I found an okay photo of my rod holders prior to installing the new Halls cushions. I think I see that bevel Tom refers to. See attached Phil T attached the following image: [60.43Kb]
Phil T	#23  Posted on 06/19/08 - 8:53 AM
Administrator Personal Page Personal Album Project Albums Posts: 7043 Comments: 6 Joined: 03/26/05	As you can see in the above photo, the snap is in the center of the piece. In the photo below, you can see the "flap" is quite wide. I recall Lois at Halls asking if I had rod holders since she made two versions. Wide or narrow flap. I did not have to move the snap for the installation. Phil T attached the following image: [48.98Kb]
CapnJs	#24  Posted on 06/19/08 - 10:06 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 135 Comments: 0 Joined: 04/21/07	Perhaps most original equiment cushions would snap correctly if the snaps were placed in the middle of the cross piece and if the dimensions of the cross pieces were exactly correct. In my case, I was using cushions from Specialty Marine and a set of teak cross pieces that I made myself. I misread Joe's drawing and slanted the face of the teak downward and then compensated by adjusting the angle of the radii slightly. Frankly slanting the face of the teak didn't make much difference except that they are not exact replicas. Of course I made them by Gorilla gluing two thiner pieces together to get the correct thickness because I had the thin teak laying around. Consequently, I waited until I had the rod holders completely installed to place the male snaps on the teak. It's a good thing that I did because the female snaps on the Specialty Marine cushions were not placed exactly. In fact, they were 9 1/4" apart instead of the 9 1/8" as the drawing calls for. I knew that in advance and drilled the holes to match the placement of the snaps. I guess that means that I could be in trouble down the road if I have to replace the cushions but... a photo on my personal page shows the varied placement of the snaps. Moral is if you don't buy your cushions from Halls watch out for the placement of the snaps. I'm not sure why Tom's snap (in the picture) is so far forward. Perhaps even the original equipment cushions had some play in the placement of the snaps? Jack
cooperphilip	#25  Posted on 06/19/08 - 12:17 PM
Member Posts: 7 Comments: 0 Joined: 05/15/08	Paul, If you could post a picture that would be great. By the way, the flaps on my cushions (purchased from Specialty Marine) extend out to 1 1/2 inches. Is that basically the same as yours? Thanks for your help! Phil
cooperphilip	#26  Posted on 06/23/08 - 12:13 PM
Member Posts: 7 Comments: 0 Joined: 05/15/08	Jack, Thanks for the info. You've been really helpful. Instalation of cushions (with extended flaps) in conjunction with rod holders makes for a much more aestestic appearance in that the flaps actually reach up to the console and the teak blocks are hidden from a side view. I already purchased the cushions from Specialty; but will inquire if they stock extended flaps. Again thanks for your help!!! Phil
CapnJs	#27  Posted on 06/23/08 - 6:13 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 135 Comments: 0 Joined: 04/21/07	Phil, Glad I could contribute something. We finally had a short break in the weather and my wife had a chance to ride on the new seat with the seat backs and she says they are very comfortable. I forgot to mention that I replaced two wood (mahogany I think) cooler holders with the black plastic ones because the wood made the cooler too high for the seat backs. Fortunately the boat came with both the wood and plastic holders because when I measured for the seat backs I found the cooler seat was too high to allow the seat backs to fit above them. Assuming that the top teak blocks were mounted flush with the bottom of the windshield. I also mounted the black plastic cooler holder a little further forward to make the seat more comfortable (more cushion to sit on). CBO's photo shows about how my seat is placed. Anyway it works. By the way, if people still need the 200 psi pvc the company that I bought it from in NH has 20 feet for about $12.00. Pretty cheap. Good luck with your project. Jack Edited by CapnJs on 06/23/08 - 6:16 PM
Joe Kriz	#28  Posted on 06/23/08 - 6:20 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	cooperphilip, The flaps on my cushions and all the cushions I have seen are 3 inches. 1 1/2 inches is not nearly enough for the flap to reach the teak blocks. I am sure that the snap placement varies from cushion to cushion slightly. They should be around 9 1/8 inches but could vary 1/8 of an inch one way or the other. There is enough room on the teak blocks to allow for slight variation.
Paulsv	#29  Posted on 06/25/08 - 7:02 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 122 Comments: 0 Joined: 08/27/07	Sorry, I had a camera malfunction, so I don't have a picture yet. The flaps on my Specialty Marine cushions are about 3 inches, and the snaps fall at about the center of the teak spacer, without having to pull hard. I had a problem with the snaps themselves. A few of them wouldn't close to start with, and several others were so tight that the first time I unsnapped them the female part of the snap separated and fell off the cushion. I replaced them all with Tenax fasteners. A little pricey, but boy do they work nice!
cooperphilip	#30  Posted on 06/26/08 - 6:27 AM
Member Posts: 7 Comments: 0 Joined: 05/15/08	Paul, Joe, You provided the answer to my problem regarding the flaps. I contacted Specialty and their supplier inadvertently shipped the cushions with 1 1/2" flaps. They will remedy the situation. I will post a picture of the project once it's completed. Hey, thanks a lot for your help!!! Phil