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New motor won't go over 3000 rpm
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| Phil T |
Posted on 06/18/20 - 8:26 AM
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Nick - See my email?
Given the 3k forward, 6k reverse, I think the cable is installed the opposite way. Push to pull or Pull to push.
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| tm5k |
Posted on 06/18/20 - 8:29 AM
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Phil T wrote:
Nick - See my email?
Given the 3k forward, 6k reverse, I think the cable is installed the opposite way. Push to pull or Pull to push.
I did double check that last night.. looked correct.
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| biggiefl |
Posted on 06/18/20 - 8:30 AM
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I assume you would know if the tach is faulty but I doubt it would inhibit your rpms. If it is reading 3300 and you are going 30mph, then its the tach or tach setting. At 3300 you would be at a slow plane, maybe 17mph or so.
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| tm5k |
Posted on 06/18/20 - 8:34 AM
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biggiefl wrote:
I assume you would know if the tach is faulty but I doubt it would inhibit your rpms. If it is reading 3300 and you are going 30mph, then its the tach or tach setting. At 3300 you would be at a slow plane, maybe 17mph or so.
Yeah, I think the rpm reading is correct, just where it connects to the engine "system" I thought it could possibly cause an issue.
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| biggiefl |
Posted on 06/18/20 - 10:02 AM
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What is your speed at WOT
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| tm5k |
Posted on 06/18/20 - 10:20 AM
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biggiefl wrote:
What is your speed at WOT
I didn't measure it the second time out, but the first time it was like 6 or 7 mph with me and a friend.
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| Phil T |
Posted on 06/18/20 - 10:30 AM
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Nick - New Suzuki tach, shifter, harnesses, cables, engine.
WOT was 3300. RPM's increased to 3300 with about 1/2 throttle.No increase in rpm or speed with more throttle.
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| biggiefl |
Posted on 06/18/20 - 10:41 AM
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Although it looks correct, I would do what Phil said and reverse it and see what gives. I doubt it is the ECM and even if the prop was marked wrong it would still get you on plane which you are clearly not at 7mph. These engines are plug and play installation so the only error per say is the cables or a faulty item. Anything else like fuel restriction or sensor would either sound the alarm, flash a code or both. Not sure about newer Suzukis but my 2005 did a weird thing when it throws a code that you need to decode with the manual. Same goes for guessing hours if not using a separate meter gauge. Again, newer engines may be different and less confusing.
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| tm5k |
Posted on 06/18/20 - 11:34 AM
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Unbelievable... I just got off the phone with the place I bought it from. He tried to belittle me and tell me to "read the goddamn manual". He then proceeded to tell me that I needed to run it in neutral for 10 hours before even putting it in gear. He told me to run run it without earmuffs for 3 hours and then I think 3 hours with muffs. That's about the time I cut him off and started reading exactly what it said in the manual. Guess what guys? I've got the old manual and they were supposed to fix this 6 months ago. So I'll report back after I go blow up my motor running it without muffs..
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| Phil T |
Posted on 06/18/20 - 11:56 AM
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Sorry to read this.
Breathe.
Give your "local" dealer's (several hours away) parts desk a call, share the story of the "shirtballs" in CA and ask them for the setup guide.
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| MG56 |
Posted on 06/20/20 - 11:20 AM
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tm5k wrote:
Unbelievable... I just got off the phone with the place I bought it from. He tried to belittle me and tell me to "read the goddamn manual". He then proceeded to tell me that I needed to run it in neutral for 10 hours before even putting it in gear. He told me to run run it without earmuffs for 3 hours and then I think 3 hours with muffs. That's about the time I cut him off and started reading exactly what it said in the manual. Guess what guys? I've got the old manual and they were supposed to fix this 6 months ago. So I'll report back after I go blow up my motor running it without muffs..
They may have meant run in the water, not on muffs. I sure hope so.
I'm guessing you did you own install so the dealer that sold it to you can't be bothered helping you. That is sad but do you know what? Contact corporate. Do the squeaky wheel thing and go over their head.
You need to bring it in and have them hook up a dealer level scanner and read codes. My guess is you have a bad/not connected sensor that is throwing the computer into stupid mode. The computer went into "fail safe". Why you get 6000 rpms in reverse I have no clue. All that tells me is the engine itself is fine.
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| tm5k |
Posted on 06/20/20 - 11:36 AM
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MG56 wrote:
tm5k wrote:
Unbelievable... I just got off the phone with the place I bought it from. He tried to belittle me and tell me to "read the goddamn manual". He then proceeded to tell me that I needed to run it in neutral for 10 hours before even putting it in gear. He told me to run run it without earmuffs for 3 hours and then I think 3 hours with muffs. That's about the time I cut him off and started reading exactly what it said in the manual. Guess what guys? I've got the old manual and they were supposed to fix this 6 months ago. So I'll report back after I go blow up my motor running it without muffs..
They may have meant run in the water, not on muffs. I sure hope so.
I'm guessing you did you own install so the dealer that sold it to you can't be bothered helping you. That is sad but do you know what? Contact corporate. Do the squeaky wheel thing and go over their head.
You need to bring it in and have them hook up a dealer level scanner and read codes. My guess is you have a bad/not connected sensor that is throwing the computer into stupid mode. The computer went into "fail safe". Why you get 6000 rpms in reverse I have no clue. All that tells me is the engine itself is fine.
I was in awe man. He was already about in the driveway no water. I'm going to have to make about a 2hr 45 min drive to have a dealer look at it. I don't trust the trailer it's on right now. I'll update you guys one I figure it out.
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| Phil T |
Posted on 06/20/20 - 12:44 PM
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Don't hesitate to reach out Trev!
Take a break and work on cabinets?
FWIW - I have my own "small" thing that has turned out to be this ridiculous monstrosity.
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| tm5k |
Posted on 07/01/20 - 9:38 PM
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Hallefreakingljah! Moved the gas under the front bench and raised the motor to the 3rd hole. Put my passenger on the front bench. No issue getting on plane at all. Max I hit was 28 mph at 5400 or 5500 rpm. I know 6300 is the max rpm but this was a huge win!
@phil t I was going to send you a video but it was late Eastern Time.
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| biggiefl |
Posted on 07/02/20 - 6:54 AM
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How much gas are you carrying?
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| tm5k |
Posted on 07/02/20 - 6:58 AM
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biggiefl wrote:
How much gas are you carrying?
6 gallons
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| biggiefl |
Posted on 07/02/20 - 8:51 AM
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40lbs of fuel should not be an issue with weight.
Wait until you break it in but you need a smaller prop. What are you running now.
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| Phil T |
Posted on 07/02/20 - 9:10 AM
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Glad you tested the boat again before the 4 hr drive.
I hope your passenger was not your better half!
Nick - Factor he is at altitude. Is it 5400ft Trevor? My mind is mush. I would guess drop 2" of pitch in the same model of prop.
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| tm5k |
Posted on 07/02/20 - 9:15 AM
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4500-4700 ft depending on where I'm fishing. Currently 10.25 x 12
No drug my brother along.. lol
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| biggiefl |
Posted on 07/02/20 - 11:18 AM
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I was thinking the same thing, will get him close to 6k maybe more alone.
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