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Should I buy a 2006 175 hp Johnson 2 stroke?
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Posted on 09/05/07 - 8:16 AM
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Thanks Jeff for the education on this. I never knew residual oil left in the cylinder would allow a motor to idle for up to three hours. If I purchase another VRO engine, I might have to reverse my thinking on disconnecting the oiling feature.


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JLH49

Like stated that would be an "only if have to circumstance." Also, I would venture to imagine that most other pump driven oiling systems would fall under the same situation. Of course every motor would be different and if the motor is already close to toast I bet it would not last long even at idle.


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Posted on 09/06/07 - 11:32 AM
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I called about the 2006 Johnson 175 and they said I could just stick with the guages I have. I only have a tach and a trim guage. Plus I just got my new Garmin 178c in the mail today.

Should I stick with the original guages? And are there any other guages I should concider having installed? My fuel guage in the floor isn't very easy to read. Maybe I should get a fuel guage.

 
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Fuel is always nice..... I also like volts and temperature. Some people have water pressure too which I have thought about - but haven't done on a boat yet - Makes sense though.


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I just noticed Joe said I'll at least need a systems check tachometer. So, I guess that means the old guages have to go.

So, I need to decide between Tech Series and I Command. I'm not sure if I Command will work with a 2006 Johnson.

 
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Roger,

According to the accessories catalogs, the I-Command Series will NOT work on the Johnson motor. Only on the E-Tec motors.

If you buy the "Tech Series" Gauges, here is what I recommend for your Johnson Outboard.
1. System Check Tachometer - #176301
2. OMC Trim Gauge # 174679
3. OMC Voltmeter # 174687
4. OMC Hour Meter # 174688

OR .......

You also have a second choice on gauges from Evinrude/Johnson.
You could use the "Commander" series which are multi-function gauges with System Check.
1. Tachometer
2. Speedometer ?
3. Voltmeter
4. Trim Gauge
I need to find out more about this series. They mention that the hour meter is built-in but they don't say in which gauge. Speedometer or Tach ?.... These gauges are the recommended upgrade for all 1996 to current Evinrude/Johnson outboards. I just scanned the Commander Series. I am still looking for more information.
http://www.whalercentral.com/readarti...icle_id=43

It appears, no matter what, you will need a new System Check Tachometer, Voltmeter, Trim Gauge, and maybe the Hour Meter depending on which series of Tachometer you buy.

With the new engine, you will also need a new Instrument Harness... This is the harness from the engine to the console that connects to the key switch and the System Check gauges.

You will also need a new modular key switch that plugs into the new harness.... These items aren't that much when you're talking $7k for an engine....


Edited by Joe Kriz on 09/07/07 - 4:38 AM
 
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Thanks so much Joe. This info is very important.
I will let you know what the dealer and I agree on. And I'll have a few days to change my mind.

Got any advice on binnacles? I'm still not sure if it will be a single or dual though.

 
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Just curious Joe, why the trim gauge too? I can understand on larger hulls and inboards, I'm probably missing something on its usefulness here.

 
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Derwd24,

I like a trim gauge. I know some other don't, but I think once a person gets used to looking at the gauge, it makes it makes it faster for me to trim the boat using the gauge first. You know, get it close because you know where the marks are on the gauge and where the boat usually trims out. Once you get it close, then the final adjustment can be made with the speed or sound...
Kinda like a book mark... A book mark will get you to the page quickly, and then you find the paragraph or sentence you are looking for.... In this case, the final trim....

Roger,
Good question about the binnacle. Either one of the System Check binnacles will work. Just depends on whether or not you want the new "Buck Rogers" style and of course which gauges you buy.... Single or Dual is up to you. If you know you are never going to use your kicker for fishing, then you might just want a single binnacle. If you think you might want to control the kicker for fishing sometime in the future, then you might want to buy the dual binnacle now so you have that capability later.... Decisions, Decisions.....

 
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