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Looking for a continental trailer in Maryland
kamie	#21  Posted on 09/09/13 - 5:30 AM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 2975 Comments: 3 Joined: 11/04/05	Yes, I have a nicely setup trailer with keel rollers. Yes, I do recommend that folks setup their trailer that way, new or older whalers. No, it's not because having a whaler on just bunks is bad, although with all your talk of bouncing, I am guessing that no one on the Texas Gulf Coast uses transom straps to keep the hull firmly attached to the trailer. I highly recommend them as well as gunnel straps for long distance trailing. I really recommend setting up a trailer with keel rollers because it makes launching and loading a trailerable boat so much easier. Without keel rollers, I could never load the 18 Outrage when the water drops in the fall so far that not even the last keel roller is wet. I could never launch and load at the ramps I visit and do it all solo. I know folks that hate launching and loading their newer whaler because it's hard, you bet it's hard hand cranking an 19 Outrage that is a 2200# boat, up onto a bunk float on trailer, when the boat can only float on about half way. That is not a workout for the weak.
Tom W Clark	#22  Posted on 09/09/13 - 8:09 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 4280 Comments: 7 Joined: 09/30/05	Take it easy Silentpardner, all that blathering makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Let me see if I can straighten out some of the misinformation introduced on page 1. The topic of this thread was: Where to buy a Continental trailer? The answer seems to be: Florida. The discussion then shifted to alternative brands and models. To clarify: Boston Whaler used to recommend a trailer that supports all the weight of the hull on keel rollers with bunks providing stability, not weight bearing capacity. Note that Whaler NEVER required this type of trailer, it was only a recommendation. Later, they admitted that bunk trailers were OK and even delivered new Whalers to customers on them. Boston Whaler today sells trailers under some models that have no keel support at all. HOWEVER, this does not mean that the bunks can be anywhere on the hull. Whaler recommends that bunks be as long as possible and conform to the shape of the hull. The key is really to be sure the bunks lie under the area of the hull where the transom motor mounting pad is located. The plywood reinforcement in the that portion of the transom acts as a truss that is rigid. The weight of the motor will be distributed quite well through this plywood reinforcement to the bunks and hence to the trailer without any problem, even without keel rollers. If the bunks are located outside this area, next to the sponsons or chines, this could lead to excessive stress, which is probably what Silentpardner is trying to describe when he writes: ...the sagging effect on the external sides of the stern to midsection of a classic Whaler that is pounded for 1000's of miles across 100000's of pot holes on bunk trailers with no keel support. Look at this image: http://www.whalercentral.com/images/p...ansom3.jpg You see the bunk well beyond the reinforced transom area. This is bad but is NOT caused simply by "bunks supporting all the weight of the boat" but rather by a lack of support anywhere under the motor mounting area of the transom. Had the bunks on this trailer been placed closer to the keel under the reinforced are of the transom, no damage would have occurred even if no keel rollers were used. Silentpardner the also introduced the following image and tried to attribute the hull damage to the trailer support under it. http://www.whalercentral.com/images/p...number.jpg Folks, that is the well known and documented hull puckering that affected some hulls, primarily in the early 1980s. The puckering has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with what trailer is used or how a boat is supported during storage. It is caused by the foam shrinking slowly over a number of years after the hull was molded. Though hull puckering can occur on any model, it was most dramatic on the very early Outrage 18s. Whaler replaced many of the worst hulls under warranty. I have seen a replaced hull myself years ago, and it was in very bad shape. The hulls did NOT come out of the mold this way, the puckering took months or years to fully develop as the foam contracted, pulling the flat portions of the topsides, which are susceptible to "oil canning" because they are not complex shapes, with it. Again, the hull puckering has nothing to do with trailers. There is much prior discussion of this phenomena available.
Silentpardner	#23  Posted on 09/09/13 - 8:30 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 593 Comments: 1 Joined: 06/12/11	Again, the hull puckering has nothing to do with trailers. There is much prior discussion of this phenomena available. Where, EXACTLY, is this "hull puckering" you speak of discussed? It does not show up in search of this site, and when googled , this is what comes up: https://www.google.com/#q=hull+puckering+puckering I am sorry if this is a short post, but I am out of breath from runnin' to my neighbors house. I had to ask him WTH does puckerin' mean. He is from the big city and has a lot of book larnin', and he told me it was like when I used to kiss the purty gals back in my youth. Is that right?
Tom W Clark	#24  Posted on 09/09/13 - 8:40 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 4280 Comments: 7 Joined: 09/30/05	It took google about .14 second to find this: http://www.google.com/search?client=s...haler+hull
Silentpardner	#25  Posted on 09/09/13 - 9:29 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 593 Comments: 1 Joined: 06/12/11	Tom, I am going to start a new thread to discuss this further. The poster here wanted to know how to add keel rollers and set up his existing boat trailer correctly to support his boat. Mr. Finnegan, (or LHG), has fully covered the answer to his post. I simply agreed with him regarding a comment based on his, (and my), opinion that there are many trailers that are not set up properly. I believe that both Mr. Finnegan and myself are entitled to these and OTHER opinions without being called an outright liar by someone who has some kind of personal agenda against either, or both of us. I directed my comment to him, not to kamie OR you, but it is apparent from both of your replies that you 2 also disagree with each other, as well as me.
Tom W Clark	#26  Posted on 09/09/13 - 9:50 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 4280 Comments: 7 Joined: 09/30/05	Relax. Read with greater care. Nobody is calling anyone else a liar. Opinions are always welcome here at Whaler Central, factually incorrect information is not and will be corrected. Larry, Kamie and I all have trailers that fully support the keels of our Whalers. I recommend such a trailer for any Whaler owner. That does not mean a bunk trailer with no keel support is necessarily bad or incorrect.
YankeeWhaler	#27  Posted on 09/09/13 - 9:40 PM
Member Posts: 14 Comments: 1 Joined: 11/17/12	This discussion has been educational. Thanks for all of your input. I will be on the hunt for a continental trailer since there is some consensus on it being the well suited for a 17. I'm contacting a dealership in Jacksonville to see if they will work with and I'll post a thread to see if anyone is interested in the info.
riptide	#28  Posted on 09/10/13 - 4:47 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 5 Comments: 0 Joined: 04/02/05	I for one, would be very interested in your quest for a Continental trailer. I live in Arlington, Va and I have a 1971 16'7 Whaler that needs a much better trailer (a 1983 Highlander) than the one I currently have. Keep us all posted. Thanks, Dave
Tom W Clark	#29  Posted on 09/10/13 - 7:45 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 4280 Comments: 7 Joined: 09/30/05	If you guys can arrange a group purchase, a dealer in Florida may be able to stack the trailers on top of one another so only one car needs to make the trip south. There may be some purchase costs savings too.
Finnegan	#30  Posted on 09/10/13 - 3:16 PM
Member Posts: 1926 Comments: 16 Joined: 05/02/08	Continental will set up a package of trailers, ready for the highway, directly at the factory. They do a really nice job of "bundling", including 4 x 4 blocking, necessary wrapping and galv u-bolt attachments. All the dealer has to do is order them. The limit is 4, with largest on bottom, smallest on top. I know of three instances where this has been done, including a two trailer package that I trailed from Fl to Chicago when I set up my Outrage 19. It can be a heavy load, and you need to have some way of unstacking them on arrival. A rental engine hoist may work. They probably use a forklift at the factory to set up the load for the highway. For others in the midwest who may be reading this, Continental DOES have one dealer outside of FL, in Minneapolis, MN who can sell these. He is mainly a boat hauler, and when he moves boats to FL, he brings back 5 or 10 Continetals that he has pre-sold. They can give you his name at the factory. Actually, the CV-7 under my Montauk was purchased this way, and the price was reasonable, very nice people to deal with, saving me a trip to FL. A friend in WI picked it up for me. This dealer will also drop one off anywhere on the way from FL, but requires that you have lift equipment to get it off his carrier. In case "Yankee" hasn't seen it, here is the Continental trailer under discussion: http://smg.photobucket.com/user/lgolt...0097650117
Slickityd16t	#31  Posted on 09/10/13 - 5:34 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 100 Comments: 0 Joined: 03/29/11	Well in my case I only have 3 keel rollers on my 13 sport with a pair of bunks just on inside portion of the sponson. So should I add a pair next to the aft and middle keel rollers? I have the parts just need bolts. 1986 13 Sport - 40 hp Smoker
Joe Kriz	#32  Posted on 09/10/13 - 5:44 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	On my prior 1972 Sport 13', I had bunks only. A Float-On Trail Rite trailer. I owned it for 13 years and sold it to a friend of mine. He owned it for another 5 or 6 years and never had any problems.
Slickityd16t	#33  Posted on 09/10/13 - 5:50 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 100 Comments: 0 Joined: 03/29/11	We just have so rough roads here, and terrible boat launches. I'm replacing the keel rollers with some solid poly ones. I guess was I was wondering would I be doing any harm by adding the extra bunks? Thanks in advance Joe. Sorry to thread jack. 1986 13 Sport - 40 hp Smoker
Joe Kriz	#34  Posted on 09/10/13 - 6:22 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	Slickityd, All of my trailers have had 4 bunks. 2 long down the sides of the keel and 2 shorter ones further out. I believe in 4 bunks plus keel rollers if the trailer has enough cross members. One of the reasons behind 4 bunks besides support, is, you can replace or repair one bunk at a time without bracing or jacking the boat up. Here is one manufacturer of a common type of trailer used on most Boston Whalers except possibly for the smaller ones. 4 bunks, keel rollers, etc. http://www.trailrite.com/galv_-2999_s...9_sing.htm
Slickityd16t	#35  Posted on 09/10/13 - 6:48 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 100 Comments: 0 Joined: 03/29/11	That helps a lot! Going that route. Thanks Joe! 1986 13 Sport - 40 hp Smoker
YankeeWhaler	#36  Posted on 09/10/13 - 9:55 PM
Member Posts: 14 Comments: 1 Joined: 11/17/12	I must have one: http://smg.photobucket.com/user/lgolt...0097650117 Thanks Finnegan
kamie	#37  Posted on 09/11/13 - 4:58 AM
Member Personal Page Project Albums Posts: 2975 Comments: 3 Joined: 11/04/05	YankeeWhaler wrote: I must have one: http://smg.photobucket.com/user/lgolt...0097650117 Thanks Finnegan The trailer or the caddy to tow it?
Whalerbob	#38  Posted on 11/19/13 - 5:00 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 311 Comments: 0 Joined: 12/07/06	I just bought a Karavan from Dave's, wish I had seen this but too late for me, not too happy with Karavan. The guys at Dave's insisted rollers are not needed but my rig was bouncing around so bad I was nervous going over 45 on the highway and after just 2 trips to the bay I now have issues with my bow eye but that could also be attributed to the excessive force needed because I have no rollers.... The original trailer lasted 24 years in 100% salt water use. After just 2 months I'm already spraying rust spots with galvanized spray. I just slid the winch post forward a few inches to increase tongue weight and added a roller under the bow and that helped a little. Pretty sure I need 2 more rollers but not sure how to do it as this curved cross bars and high clearance. Not liking the idea of adding more (straight) cross bars.