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| Etops73 |
Posted on 10/14/12 - 10:56 PM
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kamie wrote:
raise the engine first and see where that puts you both from a height and performance. If the cavitation plate is not out of the water on plane, trimmed out running at speed you may need to go to the jackplate option. The setback on any jackplate will change how the boat handles, how it sits at rest and how she runs when on plane.
This sounds like a great plan. I'll keep you posted.
Thanks.
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| Doug V |
Posted on 10/14/12 - 11:48 PM
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Joe,
I am using an iPad.
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| Etops73 |
Posted on 10/15/12 - 8:56 AM
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Doug,
Now looking closely at both of the photos you have of your boat on the trailer and at plane, it looks like the engine is at a different setting. On the trailer, It looks almost all the way up (based on the 2 bolt heads on jack plate) and in photo at plane, it looks as though it's set at 50%.
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| Tom W Clark |
Posted on 10/15/12 - 9:06 AM
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Doug's E-TEC is mounted using a jack plate. Its height is necessarily different from one bolted directly to the transom.
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| Etops73 |
Posted on 10/15/12 - 12:28 PM
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Got it.
I was looking more closely at Doug's 1st photo and comparing the engine hight/setting to the second photo. It seems as though that if he ran his boat at the setting that the engine is in the 2nd one, it would be 2 or so inches more out of the water at plane.
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| Doug V |
Posted on 10/15/12 - 6:38 PM
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The image of the boat/engine combination in the carport was taken right after the outboard was hung on the jack plate. I raised it up later, while I was doing the balance of the rigging. I can take a more current picture and post if needed.
I probably could raise it little more, but I havn't gotten around to it yet.
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| Etops73 |
Posted on 10/15/12 - 9:02 PM
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Thanks Doug for the very helpful info and pics!
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| Etops73 |
Posted on 11/23/12 - 10:15 PM
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I raised my engine all the way up to the highest setting. I posted a few photos in my photo bucket page. I really like the way it rides now. Any thoughts?
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| Derwd24 |
Posted on 11/23/12 - 10:42 PM
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The pic's of your A/V plate while on plane look exactly the way ours looks (200 HO) after raising the engine all the way, still a bit buried.
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| kamie |
Posted on 11/24/12 - 8:22 AM
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It does look a little buried but it also doesn't look very trimmed out. The plate should be above or at the water surface, when the boat is on plane and the outboard trimmed out. What prop and what are you seeing at WOT?
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| Etops73 |
Posted on 11/24/12 - 9:28 AM
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I'm not exactly sure what prop is on there. I'll check it out when the boat is back on land. I'll also try trimming while snapping different photos. The photo of the engine at plane is at 5k RPM. I didn't quite get to WOT because of the "bumps in the road".
Looking at Doug V's photo of his boat at plane, it seems like I'm about 1/2-1" deeper. Does that seem right?
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| kamie |
Posted on 11/24/12 - 11:17 AM
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take a look at my personal page. I uploaded a photo of my E-Tec on plane, trimmed out.
You didn't say what year outboard but here is a link to the optimum RPM ranges which is what you should prop for.
http://www.etecownersgroup.com/post?i...id=5396435
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| Etops73 |
Posted on 11/24/12 - 5:40 PM
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I have a 2009. I'm pretty sure the original owner of the engine put the "recommended" prop, per Evinrude. Off the top of your head, would you know how to identify what model 3 bladed, Viper I might have?
I hope that making trim adjustments on my engine can yield the same setting as your engine.
Thanks.
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Changed the abbreviated year to the full 4 digit year of 2009.
http://www.whalercentral.com/forum/vi...d_id=15197
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| kamie |
Posted on 11/24/12 - 6:32 PM
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Etops73 wrote:
I have a 2009. I'm pretty sure the original owner of the engine put the "recommended" prop, per Evinrude. Off the top of your head, would you know how to identify what model 3 bladed, Viper I might have?
If there isn't a part number on it i'm not sure, but Tom Clark may be able to help. I run a Merc 4 blade on mine.
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| Derwd24 |
Posted on 11/24/12 - 7:27 PM
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Etops73 wrote:
I hope that making trim adjustments on my engine can yield the same setting as your engine.
Keep in mind that like Doug, Kamie is also using a jack plate.
Kamie, just curious, did you go right to the jack plate or did you initially mount the E-tec directly to the transom?
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| kamie |
Posted on 11/25/12 - 5:30 AM
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I had the jackplate before I had the E-Tec. I installed in in 2005 when I added the stern seat to clear the splashwell for storage and move the engine back away from the stern seat. I toyed with taking it off when I added the E-Tec but decided not too since I occasionally do put the stern seat in. I also like the extra storage space in the splashwell for a cooler.
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| Etops73 |
Posted on 11/25/12 - 2:13 PM
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I'll try trimming and dial it in as best as I can. Last resort will be a hydraulic plate from Bob's.
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| kamie |
Posted on 11/25/12 - 3:19 PM
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See if you can dial it in before you go the jackplate route. Not to say jackplates are all bad, but they add stern weight, they change the static trim at rest, they alter how the boat handles so be prepared for changes.
I realize that totally flat water may not be possible where you are, but see if you can get some GPS speeds and RPM's at WOT. Remember to trim out until the prop starts breaking loose, then trim in a bit. 2009 range at WOT should be 5500-5600 RPM. If your in that range, I wouldn't worry too much about where the plate is, it sounds like your pretty close to having it at or above the water surface.
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| Etops73 |
Posted on 11/25/12 - 3:29 PM
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Great advice!
Thanks for your help.
I'll keep posted.
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| Etops73 |
Posted on 11/26/12 - 11:04 PM
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I had a chance to work on trimming my engine out today. I uploaded a photo, as well as a video of the procedure that kamie recommended. I did it at @ 5500 RPM, and got about 46MPH out of her. I don't have my Garmin hooked up yet, so the MPH came off of a iPhone app. It was pretty windy (flat though) therefore, the MPH could have been wind aided.
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