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RESTORING first post... bought a '69 17 footer
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| DelawareDan |
Posted on 05/25/07 - 11:20 AM
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stencil of hull was painted over. Could not read it. Tried to take off a little at a time with stripper... waiting a few minutes, and then attacking with a scrubby. Next pics show results.
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Posted on 05/25/07 - 11:20 AM
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| DelawareDan |
Posted on 05/25/07 - 11:21 AM
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will tape off when I paint the deck to preserve just a little of the original gelcoat and stencil number
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| DelawareDan |
Posted on 05/25/07 - 11:41 AM
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here's a chunk of foam... it's actually about 7 X 7 X 20 (see initial post in this thread) on a baby scale. Lost about 8 ounces between day 3 and day 4, but on day five, it's still about 11 lbs, even.
I've read various opinions about water migration through foam. From what I've seen first hand so far, my opinion is that water will migrate, but very very slowly. Just drilled two more test holes very close to the areas that are open, and the foam is wet. Bow has been raised for weeks, and the holes near the console area are still wet, while the bottom-most part of keel at the stern is dry. I cut the hole bigger in the transom with a hole saw, and ran a hairdryer for days on it. After it was dry, it didn't get wet again, even though there were wet areas nearby.
Thanks for the kind words and advice... glad to be in your "support group"! The picture resizing program is great. Will let you know how it goes from time to time. On one of the threads, someone had some leftover foam available... can't find the post. If you still have it, please PM me.
I'm torn between going forward / getting the Cork IN THE WATER, and doing the job better. Once I seal it all up, I'm sealing in whatever moisture is in there. I think I'll open up several more spots and let it air out some more.
Going to try to post the first picture by editing it in to the first post.
Thanks again for the advice. Keep it coming!
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 05/25/07 - 11:48 AM
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Well Dan,
You figured out how to do attachments...
Now, as a suggestion, it would be much better if you put all of these photos in your Personal Page.
Give it a try...
I uploaded all of these photos to your Personal Page for you.
http://www.whalercentral.com/infusion...l_page.php
Thanks for sharing the photos and look forward to seeing them in your Personal Page...
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Posted on 05/25/07 - 1:03 PM
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Got it! Thanks Joe!
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Posted on 05/25/07 - 3:43 PM
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OK, at the end of day SIX out of the boat, this chunk of foam has lost almost nothing in weight since yesterday. I decided to cut it in half, and water SQUIRTED out of the knife cut. It's amazing how much water is in there. The outside is dry as a bone. Even if I took the whole deck off and drilled a hundred holes in the bottom and left it covered for months, I doubt I could make a dent at drying out the foam. Others have said that moisture doesn't migrate in this foam. It does, because obviously that's how it got in there, but it does so VERY slowly, so getting it out is a problem. Don't know what I'm gonna do.
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| ppoorman |
Posted on 05/26/07 - 7:18 AM
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Hi Dan. Your pictures and details are great! I bought a motor-less 1967' 16/17 in december from a guy who re-did the boat inside and out with 1 part interlux emamel and put the boat on ebay to sell. I put a brand new merc 90 2 stroke on and it is fast! Wanted 4 stroke, but also wanted at least 90 hp and this motor at 305 lbs is the most I could put on without re-creating the waterline.
Anyway, when I got the boat in the garage this spring I noticed the counsel was loose. Its a fiberglas BW Montauk counsel that was probably updated in the late 70's. So, I removed it to find many screws slid right out and some un-filled holes.....so water was in my hull. I drilled 2 holes in the keel directly under the counsel and it dripped (around 1-2 drips per day) for the last 8 weeks. When I patched the holes last week to launch the boat it was still dripping a drip every few days, probably around a pint of water total came out. My plan - to enjoy my new boat this summer and in the fall strip the old bottom paint with stripper and drill LOTS of holes in the bottom and let sit for the winter. I am sure, and your evidence confirm's, that not all of the water will come out over the winter, but I think most will and at the end of the day its a 40 year old boat that is still very strong, un sinkable, and will probably be good for another 20 - 40 years.
I will get some pictures up because it looks great and I built a rear-bench seat out of Starboard plastic which was very easy, un expensive, light weight, and does not take up much space.
Anyway let us know how your water-woes go! Pat
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| DelawareDan |
Posted on 05/27/07 - 6:06 AM
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I think Pat's got the right idea. As for me, it makes sense to get everything as dry as possible, then button it up and enjoy the boat this season. I got a lot done yesterday to get the hull and deck in shape (lots of grinding, filling, fiberglassing) and this winter I'll drain it some more. I drilled several test holes at various places by the keel (watch out not to drill into the tunnel!) and got a few drips near the console area. Will keep things open as long as makes sense. Got a lot of work to do other than hull.... service the motor, modify the console, add electronics, etc. But I've GOT to get out on the water! It's been too long.
Last night, I took apart 3 Penn reels, polished and oiled them, and filled them with new mono. Moving foward!
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Posted on 05/29/07 - 9:54 PM
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If your not going original you might want to consider something like Rhino liner for the floor. I drilled out the holes and then used a 1' wood bit and drilled just enough to remove the gel coat. I then filled the holes and redrilled. This gave the filler a larger surface area. I used a blow dryer too. When you drill some holes in the bottom shoot some air in with an air compressor. I drilled 5 holes in the bottom and it dripped about 2 days. I started removing the bottom paint and while blowing the bottom off I ran the air hose over one of the holes and it shot water out of the hole beside it. Heat also brings the water out. The whaler does not give up the water easy. I read on this site that you can drill a hole and the water leaks out but thats just not true. It will not just drip out holes. Vibration helps. I sat my air compressor in mine with a slow leak in the air hose, I ran about 6 times and hour. I saw where someone used a sander but the air compressor shakes the boat a lot harder. It's the raisin bran effect. Thats why all the raisins are at the bottom of the box after shipping. Water is the same way. The foam is light and the water is heavy. Good Luck!
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Posted on 05/30/07 - 4:28 AM
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Im sure this has been tried but I figure why not suggest it anyway. How bout covering it in a garage and placing a dehumidifier under the cover. Of course keeping the cover tight would help. - I say putting it in the garage as leaving it outside I would think the sun then the night cold would create some moisture under the cover. Just a thought. I'm sure someone will chime in that has tried this before to let us know if it works or not.
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| DelawareDan |
Posted on 05/31/07 - 7:13 PM
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Good ideas there. I also thought about a Rhino Liner. That would work for me, and I may do it in the future. I've decided to put a non-slip paint on the deck, and then spray the deck and gunnel with the Interlux for now. You're right about Whalers not giving up their water verly easily! This is why I didn't powerwash the boat before I made some of these repairs. The last thing I wanted to do was INJECT water into about 40 holes at 3000 PSI.
But this morning, I did in fact powerwash the boat for the first time. All the holes are plugged, I have a new drain out the transom, and the foam I removed is all replaced and the deck is sealed up. Tonight I'll be adding an update to my personal page on the drainpipe installation. Seems like the website was down for a while tonight, but it seems to be back up again.
Happy Whalering!
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