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Ethanol myths clarified per Boat U.S.
CES
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Posted on 12/03/11 - 8:24 AM
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Lol.

Because deposits from the fuel lines end up in the fuel filters and carb bowls. Pretty simple to figure out.




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What is so funny? I doubt what you say as fiction not fact. People always claim to know more than they do. Ethenol is ethyl alcohol a very fast evaporating solvent. Fuel/gasoline/petroleum what ever you want to call it derives from oil. Oil is a lubricant and will stay as a lubricant long before and after alcohol. Why are your fuel lines in your vehicle not deteriorating? Go get educated.


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It amazes me how people laugh and scoff at their lack of wisdom and knowledge.


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Dang John; be nice. CES is an Aeronautical Engineer motorhead kinda guy. Not exactly a man w/o knowledge but probably has the wisdom to not argue the point in question.
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You can do an easy experiment to see if ethanol does eat the tubing. Submerge the tubing in ethanol, cover and leave it for a while. Check and see if the tubing is deteriorating.


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If you google boatus you can read the article. I don't think it really answers much about ethanol , but the headline is as posted.
My opionion has been stated here before on another thread so I will not bore you with a reprise. I buy "real gas" for my boat and 2 stroke tools in Berlin Md. Funny that only areas near boating carry non-eth gas. Probably just coincidence.
REAL GAS is a website that will tell you state by state where it can be purchased.

 
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zappaddles wrote:
Dang John; be nice. CES is an Aeronautical Engineer motorhead kinda guy. Not exactly a man w/o knowledge but probably has the wisdom to not argue the point in question.
Zap


Zap I didn't single him out he sought me out.


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zappaddles wrote:
Dang John; be nice. CES is an Aeronautical Engineer motorhead kinda guy. Not exactly a man w/o knowledge but probably has the wisdom to not argue the point in question.
Zap


I am only stating my opinion. That for the group. Nothing more, nothing less. This is a forum.


Edited by John Fyke on 12/03/11 - 12:13 PM
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Thanks zap, some people are haters.

I've built and rebuilt many motors over the years and I've seen the effects of ethanol in motors. I'm in the process of doing an engine swap on another boat taking out the 540cid BBF motor (which I built up and stroked) and installing a Z06/LSX corvette motor. Big difference between an old school iron block carburated motor and a new school aluminum block computer controlled engine.




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zappaddles wrote:
Dang John; be nice. CES is an Aeronautical Engineer motorhead kinda guy. Not exactly a man w/o knowledge but probably has the wisdom to not argue the point in question.
Zap


Says who? His expertise is electronics not fuel.


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I'm done with it.
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zappaddles wrote:
I'm done with it.
Zap



Me too.


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Here's is a though, Did anyone have the problems they are having before Ethanol?

 
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Not me.

 
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I too have been a boater for many years (36). I will give my opinion as this. If you maintain your boat and motor as you should you will have minimal problems. It really is that simple.


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Interesting topic.


Edited by CES on 12/03/11 - 9:01 PM
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What if Ethanol were banned as a fuel additive ?

1 - The price of corn would be cut in half overnight.
2 - Corn would be more plentiful to eat.
3 - Al Gore and Jimmy Carter would be pissed.
4 - Fewer humans would starve.
5 - Less livestock would starve leading to even less humans starving.
5 - The members of WC would not have to read about E10 anymore.
6 - Fuel lines and aluminum gas tanks across the world would all breath a collective sigh of relief.

Hey no downside ! So why does it exist to begin with ?

 
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You forgot the price of steak......it would drop too.


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I've been using E10 for at least 10 years and have never had a problem with my Yamaha 50 hp 2-stroke. I've never noticed any deterioration of the fuel lines either.


Edited by Geo on 12/04/11 - 7:54 AM
 
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I hate this topic but I just can't resist...

Let's assume for a moment that it does not cause engine/hose/fuel tank damage.

What to you get with E10 gas that you can't get from regular gas ?

Nothing...

This tells me everything I need to know...

 
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