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| barefootin |
Posted on 11/04/13 - 1:36 PM
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2012 Jeep Wrangler to tow my 15' Sport CC. 3.21 gearing gets 21 mph average and close to 12 towing. Pulls fine but stopping quickly could be an issue at highway speeds. This is right at the 2000# limit for the vehicle.
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| Perry Vayo |
Posted on 11/15/13 - 7:26 PM
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Grady,
Thanks for the info. I will take alook at it. The best rating i ever found is 2400 which leaves nothing to spare.
The Menemsha is sitting in the yard right now, if you are near Rochester i can arrange a tour...snow permitting!
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Perry Vayo wrote:
Grady, what year is you Outback? Please show me where my Baja will tow 2700 pounds! You will make my day. From what ive calculated my Menemsha rig is on the bleeding edge of the 2400 pound rating. Especially the 200 pound tongue limit of the hitch. Id love to be able to haul with it, but it makes me nervous.
Btw. Im in your area.
Hello Vayo,
Sorry for such a long delay responding. I went to Edmunds website and looked up specs. 2700 lbs is right there with a disclaimer that they want the right hitch and there is a mention of "engine modifications." I have not needed any engine modifications other than simply driving like I was towing a boat! This is our third Outback. I have towed with them all. The newest, the one I usually drive is a 2013. My wife has a 2010 and I had a 2009 before this. All of them will handle my boats.
BTW: A Mememsha? I'd love to see that someday!
I don't think I have 200 lbs on the tongue. They are not light, and I have not measured this, but I believe it to be under 200 lbs tongue weight. We purchase the cars with Subaru's towing package factory installed. No other mods have been required.
Hope that helps. Sorry again for the delay.
Grady
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| Binkie |
Posted on 11/27/13 - 7:31 AM
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Well the '92 Taurus I bought my wife to tow her wooden rowboat with didn't work out too well. The brakes failed as she was backing down the ramp, You can picture the result of that. Damn row boat floated off down the lake and it cost me $100 to get the rig towed back up the ramp. I don't know, it still might be sitting there. Trailer was rusty anyhow. Now she crabs off the dock near the ramp and gets their on an old Schwinn, so it worked out well, I still get to eat blue crabs. Only thing is now she's bugging me to take her fishing in one of my restored Whalers.
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| Petrus |
Posted on 11/28/13 - 12:02 AM
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Bought a Volvo V70 2.4D MY2010 last week 195hp and 460Nm (340 lb ft) between 1500-3000rpm.
I hope that it will tow my 17 Montauk a lot better then my 15 year old V70 2.4 petrol did.
I will mount a towing hitch to it next weekend.
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| one4uf |
Posted on 01/02/14 - 6:55 PM
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I tow my 1985 17 Montauk with (what will most likely be the most coveted tow vehicle of this thread) my wife's 2011 Toyota Sienna minivan. It has a 3500 pound rating and tows/launches/retrieves with no problem at all.
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| Silentpardner |
Posted on 01/03/14 - 7:19 AM
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Binkie, I believe you should definitely mount that steering wheel on the port side custom 24" CC mounted on the 15' Whaler now, and I think I know what Whaler was thinking when they decided to do the same thing at the factory.
It is clear that with the steering wheel on the port side of the console, your wife will be forced to sit or lean on the starboard side of the console if you are forced to take her with you. This will allow her to spot crabs more easily, and she will have easy exit to get them quickly for you when spotted. You can simply make a pass beside her in the 15', and she can toss any bagged crabs into her vacated space at the helm closer to the gunnels as well.
This positioning of the wheel will also allow for quicker ejection of your wife from the boat by simply making a sudden turn to port, while keeping you safely in the boat.
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| docsoma |
Posted on 01/03/14 - 8:50 AM
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one4uf wrote:
I tow my 1985 17 Montauk with (what will most likely be the most coveted tow vehicle of this thread) my wife's 2011 Toyota Sienna minivan. It has a 3500 pound rating and tows/launches/retrieves with no problem at all.
Back in 1994 I recall reading in some boating magazine at the grocery store that the 4cylinder rear wheel drive Toyota Previa minivan was rated as the best tow vehicle...no doubt for loads less than say 3500 pounds.
From this thread I gather the transmission and quality of brakes is as if not more important than brute horsepower.
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| Karlow |
Posted on 01/04/14 - 9:52 PM
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In the LA area in So Cal, taking the boat to a lake is a 30-90 mile tow with 1,000-5,000 ft elevation gain.
I'm pulling a 17ft classic Whaler. I'm thinking a 4cyl is not going to get you up to Pyramid lake w/o a turbo!
Chevy S10 w 4.3L V6 Ext-cab. It gets the job done. If you get a bigger boat, you need a bigger truck, or some flatter real estate! It's good for 19 mpg street/freeway combo when not towing.
See ya on the water.
PS Diamond Valley lake was spectacular today. 3mph wind, 70 deg. sunny and no fish to clean!
It's not all bad over here on the beat coast. OK, I did catch one LMB.
That's about a 1.5 hour run form my part of town.
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| timh |
Posted on 01/05/14 - 7:36 AM
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I'm going to be towing my 1985 18' outrage with my 2012 jeep wrangler unlimited 4dr altitude edition. does anybody have any feed back on a similar rig? i also have a 2003 toyota tacoma v6 5speed i have been using but don't want to use it on long hauls.
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| gchuba |
Posted on 01/05/14 - 8:47 PM
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After reading this post it appears that anybody will toe anything with anything. Good luck to you all, especially the ones that say it "tows well but stopping can be an adventure". To timh, if the choices are between the two vehicles, use the stick shift truck with weight in the back. My tow vehicle is the 1998 Dodge diesel extended cab, 4 wheel drive, one ton, 6 speed stick shift. However, I did have to change the dually's in the back to wide single tires. I kept wiping out the passenger side outside rear tire when cruising country roads daydreaming when I was not towing or under load.
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| dgoodhue |
Posted on 01/06/14 - 4:21 AM
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I know this is a couple months old. I have a 2012. The 2012 Outback owners manual says 2700 but over 1000 requires trailer brakes.
Perry Vayo wrote:
Grady, what year is you Outback? Please show me where my Baja will tow 2700 pounds! You will make my day. From what ive calculated my Menemsha rig is on the bleeding edge of the 2400 pound rating. Especially the 200 pound tongue limit of the hitch. Id love to be able to haul with it, but it makes me nervous.
Btw. Im in your area.
Grady95 wrote:
My wife and I both own Subaru Outbacks with the 4 cyl. boxer engines. The towing capacity on the car is 2,700 lbs. It's a pretty heavy car and has big brakes and a good strong transmission. I have 3 Montauks, all with E-Tec 90s and these Outbacks do a more than adequate job of trailering them around The Finger Lakes and The Thousand Islands regions of New York State where I fish. They are good at the launch with the full time 4 wheel drive also. Normally these cars get about 28 MPG average. That drops down to about 16 MPG when towing the boats, but that's still better than the 11 MPG I get doing the same thing with the big F150 Super Crew.
We tow utility trailers also with these cars, usually loaded with firewood. Whalers are great trailering boats aren't they? So easy to move, launch, and haul out. Anyway, the Outbacks do the job just fine. May want to keep up on replacing pads and rotors a little more frequently if you do a lot of towing with them, but the car is up the task.
Grady
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| Dukiball |
Posted on 01/06/14 - 8:55 PM
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timh wrote:
I'm going to be towing my 1985 18' outrage with my 2012 jeep wrangler unlimited 4dr altitude edition. does anybody have any feed back on a similar rig? i also have a 2003 toyota tacoma v6 5speed i have been using but don't want to use it on long hauls.
I tow my 1998 Dauntless 18' it has a 150 on it with my 2011 wrangler unlimited rubicon auto it has a tow pack on it with 411 gears & 35" tires & it does fine it's close to max tow rate at 3500# the boat is probably 2800 to 3000#
(moderator note: changed the abbreviated year to the full 4 digit year)
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| critter52 |
Posted on 03/14/14 - 6:47 AM
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I tow my 17 Montauk with my Toyota Tacoma , 4 cyl, 5 speed w/cruise, mostly flat land with rolling hills from Alexandria, to Lake Charles, La. no problem, get 17 mpg, only put it in 4th when climbing I 210 bridge in Lake Charles.
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| cg_wilson2003 |
Posted on 03/29/14 - 8:39 PM
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Just glancing through this mine seems like over kill compared to you guys. 2003 F250 6.0 Diesel. I have always preferred to have a tow vehicle that is very sure footed with anything I am pulling.
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| butchdavis |
Posted on 03/30/14 - 7:24 AM
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Ram 1500 4X2 for a 190 Montauk and a Sport 13.
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| Jay Fitz |
Posted on 03/30/14 - 11:20 AM
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I just got a 2013 Ford Flex AWD with factory tow package and EcoBoost engine (365hp). The tow rating is 4500 lbs and I'm only towing my 1978 Montauk a short distance, but I have a feeling I will be moving up to a 22 Revenge or Outrage cuddy in the future. This should work well for those as well...
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| MarkTemplar |
Posted on 03/31/14 - 6:54 AM
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2011 Jeep Liberty Renegade. This package can tow 5k-lbs & sports heavy duty cooling for engine and transmission. Decent gas mileage and comfort.
Towed show horses for decades. Found need heavy duty hitch nor can cheat on electrical hookups. Count on heavy brake pad wear, even with brake system on trailer.
Did tow with '79 Ford Bronco. It could tow 8k-lbs. Loved gas. Going over 60-mph was like flushing the toilet.
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| dbcollen |
Posted on 03/31/14 - 7:04 AM
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Long ago in my youth I once towed a 20ft larson with a v8 omc inboard from Fl to northern Ca with a 1983 4cyl toyota pickup and no trailer brakes. I went over the rockies on that trip. The poor toyota spent a few hundred miles at or above redline in 2nd gear to pull those grades. It seemed to stop reasonably well.
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| DLynch |
Posted on 04/01/14 - 2:09 AM
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I tow my 1988 Montauk with a 2013 Subaru Liberty Wagon, only a 2.5 4 cylinder but no issues at all.
Glad the boat doesn't need a huge tow rig, as the Subaru works well as a daily driver.
Dom
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| Doc L |
Posted on 04/04/14 - 7:26 PM
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2010 ford flex and a dauntless 170. Cut it close to my vehicles gVWR but it worked and life went on.no factory tow package, I added the hitch after market. No AWD. Didn't add the engine oil cooler. Drove to 4 hours to traverse city and back (I live in detroit) in 98 deg temps and all was OK.
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