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Looking for a continental trailer in Maryland
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| YankeeWhaler |
Posted on 09/06/13 - 7:23 PM
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It's time for a new trailer and I'm looking for a continental trailer for my 1988 custom17 as seen in Finnegan's posts. If you're in the Maryland area and know of one that's available please let me know. If anyone wants to bundle a delivery from continental trailer in Fla., I would be interested in that as well.
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| kamie |
Posted on 09/07/13 - 5:24 AM
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If your looking for a new Continental trailer then it seems like a trip to FL is in your future. Most trailers are fairly local and don't have a wide distribution area, probably based on cost to ship. Even with a Continental trailer, you will need to add keel rollers. Depending on where you are in MD, Dave's Trailers, http://www.davesboattrailers.com/ilers.com/ is a good local trailer dealer and I know at least one person who has gotten a trailer from him.
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| blacksmithdog |
Posted on 09/07/13 - 10:12 AM
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Looks like Dave carries Karavan, which has been a Whaler trailer as of late.
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| mtown |
Posted on 09/07/13 - 10:45 AM
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Venture trailers are made in Baltimore and have aluminum in sizes for your boat. They look similar to Continental from what is on their website. I have never owned either brand though.
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| kamie |
Posted on 09/07/13 - 12:45 PM
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Venture trailers doesn't sell direct, if I remember correctly, you can get them through Dave's as well.
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| YankeeWhaler |
Posted on 09/07/13 - 12:47 PM
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Thanks all for your responses. I knew about Dave's boat trailers...didn't know that venture was made in Baltimore. I'm always looking for an excuse to go to Florida, but that's a long trip to get a trailer.
Any advice on Karavan vs. Venture? Model?
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| Tom W Clark |
Posted on 09/07/13 - 1:07 PM
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A Venture VB 2000 would be fine. Add a couple keel rollers on the cross members and away you go.
http://www.venturetrailers.com/bunk.html/bunk.html
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| Derwd24 |
Posted on 09/07/13 - 1:36 PM
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That's exactly what I did for the Venture trailer we bought (aluminum I beam) as it came with only bunks. Also added another cross arm and 2 more rollers to further support the keel and also see if I could then launch at a shallower pitch ramp that's more local to me.
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| YankeeWhaler |
Posted on 09/07/13 - 1:40 PM
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I was looking at that one, but I thought I should look for something that would allow for 4 keel rollers like it is now on my current highlander trailer. I also like the idea of 3 x 12 inch rollers. It doesn't look like I can do that o this one without adding crossmembers.
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| blacksmithdog |
Posted on 09/08/13 - 3:01 AM
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If you have to order it, you might also see if you can up-size the tires and wheels.
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| kamie |
Posted on 09/08/13 - 6:12 AM
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Here are a couple considerations and thoughts for going the VB-2300 although it will cost you a bit more money.
1. Tire size, bigger is better and also easier to find when you need to replace.
2. trailer length, if you launch at a lot of different ramps, i find it helpful to keep the truck out of the water especially on unfamiliar ramps.
3. trailer length, or really the distance from the bow stop to the coupler, is there enough room to open hatches or gates on the two vehicle.
If you want additional rollers, then you will need to add cross beams. You will have to do that to most trailers these days as hardly anyone sets up a trailer with keel rollers, except possibly Boston Whaler owners.
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| mtown |
Posted on 09/08/13 - 6:56 AM
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Venture does not sell direct, I went on a Saturday and could only see the trailers through a chain link fence. Riverside marine stocks and sells them also. You may be able to spec your own needs at the factory and take delivery from a dealer near you. Factory is right near Sparrows Point.
I ended up just replacing the corroded parts on my existing trailer since it travels from my driveway to my neighbors ramp.
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| Finnegan |
Posted on 09/08/13 - 12:14 PM
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The Continental trailer under my Montauk 17 is a 2011 model year tilt-frame Model CV-7, in 2000# capacity. I ordered it with three 12" rollers and one 8" roller. You can upgrade from the standard black rollers to Stoltz rollers from the factory, but I found it less expensive to buy them myself, including the SS roller shafts, at a cost of about $35 for each cross member. The trailer also comes with 2 x 6 x 8' bunks, which I discarded in favor of 2 x 4 x 5' bunks. The smaller size is more than adequate for a Montauk. The trailer cost me $1200., plus the additional for the bunks, spare tire and Stoltz set up. Tongue jack is included.
This trailer fits a Montauk like it was specifically designed for it, and getting the boat on and off the trailer is so easy a child can operate the winch.
One can be ordered from one of several dealers in Jacksonville. To me, it's worth the trip. A trailer can make or break your boating experience and enjoyment. 90% of the Whalers I have seen in my life are on terrible, hard to use and maintain, trailers. Just yesterday I saw an 18 Outrage on an EZ Loader roller cradle trailer. Whoever set up and sold that boat didn't have a clue, and the bottom of the hull was indented.
Another brand worth looking at is Magic Tilt. I think they have a similiar trailer, and are often available closer.
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| crbenny |
Posted on 09/08/13 - 1:36 PM
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Larry,
What Conti dealership do you work with down here in S. Florida?
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| Silentpardner |
Posted on 09/08/13 - 1:39 PM
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Just yesterday I saw an 18 Outrage on an EZ Loader roller cradle trailer. Whoever set up and sold that boat didn't have a clue, and the bottom of the hull was indented.
I have also seen photos of many Outrage 18's in for sale ads and in member's photos here and elsewhere that clearly show sagging sides of hulls from stern to console as a result of not using keel rollers, or by using the bunks to support all the weight of their boat during trailering. It saddens me to see the classic hull Whalers destroyed and then resold to someone unaware of what to look for.
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| kamie |
Posted on 09/08/13 - 1:50 PM
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There is nothing wrong with using a bunk trailer under a whaler, classic or otherwise. Using a bunk trailer will not result in "sagging sides" on a classic whaler. Using roller trailers or roller bunks with no keel rollers will result in denting the skin of the boat.
Whaler supplies Karavan bunk trailer with all new whalers of trailerable size.
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| Silentpardner |
Posted on 09/08/13 - 3:51 PM
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Ok, kamie.
Please explain to us exactly how this sagging side effect on Whalers is produced, if you don't agree. Please reread what I wrote...NO KEEL ROLLERS AND BUNKS SUPPORTING ALL THE WEIGHT OF THE BOAT.
For instance, what do YOU think caused this transom damage and side sag
http://www.whalercentral.com/infusion...r_id=27106
Oh, and check out the bottom picture on this page...
http://www.whalercentral.com/infusion...r_id=12203
Clearest example of "side sagging" I found in the first 15 minutes of hunting...notice that fine trailer?
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| kamie |
Posted on 09/08/13 - 4:50 PM
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For the first one, not sure what happened as I don't have the history of the boat and it's not mine. None of the posts on the thread provided any clue as to the history of the boat and OP has not been back for months. Clearly the boat has cracks at key joints but without a history it's hard to say what happened
On the second one, I assume you are focused on the last photo with wavy sides? If that is the case, the hull comes out of the mold that way. It's a cosmetic issue and not from a trailer.
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| Tom W Clark |
Posted on 09/08/13 - 7:03 PM
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"Sagging sides"? WTH is that?
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| Silentpardner |
Posted on 09/08/13 - 10:38 PM
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Well, Tom, it would be the sagging effect on the external sides of the stern to midsection of a classic Whaler that is pounded for 1000's of miles across 100000's of pot holes on bunk trailers with no keel support. I have seen 2 at my fiberglass shop in the last 6 months while visiting my own Outrage 18 during the refit I have it going through currently. One of these was a 20' and the other was a 22' classic hull. I also saw a 27' with a similar sag, although it wasn't as long and had resulted from the boat being kept in a sling.
When I asked my fiberglass guy what had happened to the 2 sagging hulls, he told me that compression forces caused delamination of the outer fiberglass from the inner foam core. This problem is seen frequently in my area on trailerable Whalers, and the shop I use sees quite a few of these "sags" and transom cracks and breaks every year. I know I haven't seen all the cases this year, I just happened to see 3 separate cases of compression related hull delaminations due to abusive trailering and storage practices, in our opinion. I am told by my guy that this is the 2nd most common Whaler hull problem he sees after accidental damage.
In almost all cases of this "side sagging", a person can press on the sagged or bulged area and push the fiberglass shell by hand until it stops against the interior foam. In extreme cases, transom damage will also be present. Cracks and splits are evident. The 3 cases I have mentioned here do not have wet foam in these areas when the fiberglass shell is removed, and the delaminated area does not have any punctures.
I guess y'all don't have this problem in your neck of the woods from the reaction I see from you and others, but I assure you it is very real here. Maybe it's just a local thing? I see at least three cases of delamination discussed on this website, and one of them I see you as a respondent. All of these cases appear to be local to the Texas Gulf Coast. I am sure y'all take MUCH more care in avoiding the crime of Whaler Abuse out west and certainly up north than we do around here. After all, y'all are all a lot smarter than us poorly educated, low class rednecks , right?:)
Oh, kamie, do you reckon that poor sucker that bought that brand new Whaler with the factory defect got a discount? I bet he paid extra fer that, probably bought it from some slick Yankee dealer...sold it to some long-haired hippie over there at UVA McIntyre School of Business originally as the new "Wavy Gravy edition" after it passed quality control at the Boston Whaler factory...I think I understand now. Thanks fer the educatin'.
Oh, and I notice your trailer is a keel roller trailer and you recommend in numerous posts to put them classic whalers like yers on just such a trailer, with them fancy dadgum rollers suportin' all the weight ,...you sly devil you! I get it now, if we can jest git all them other Whalers destroyed by pounding them on bunks instead of keel rollers, the value of the ones on them high-class trailers up north, like the one you actually use there, will have to go up! wink,wink! :) Sorry, gess I jest wasn't thinkin' right. I'm with ya now Hoss :) Show do hope I dint screw up yer plan :(
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