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Anchor hatch montauk 17
egerrity	#1  Posted on 06/23/08 - 11:35 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 439 Comments: 2 Joined: 07/11/07	I am in need of the correct size screws that were used to fasten the anchor hatch pick up handle. The ones that are in mine don't seem to be correct. I am hopping that water did not get into the area. I am going to take it apart tonight and investigate. The screws that are in there now are the countersink type and done seems to sit the proper way. Thanks Ed 1991 Montauk 17 - 2012 ETEC 90HP
Phil T	#2  Posted on 06/23/08 - 12:32 PM
Administrator Personal Page Personal Album Project Albums Posts: 7046 Comments: 6 Joined: 03/26/05	Ed - My apologies for being a dimwit! What are you referring to? I have no idea what a cover "handle" is. 1992 Outrage 17 I 2019 E-TEC 90, Viper 17 2+ 2018 Load Rite Elite 18280096VT
Joe Kriz	#3  Posted on 06/23/08 - 1:04 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	There are no handles on the Montauk bow locker hatch (cover). There was a hole for your finger only to lift the locker. This is for the 1977 to around 1999.... You don't mention what year Montauk you have.
egerrity	#4  Posted on 06/23/08 - 1:09 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 439 Comments: 2 Joined: 07/11/07	Sorry guys.. its a 1991 montauk. It has the fiberglass hatch with non skid on it. Its not aftermarket. There is a perko lift up ring to open the hatch. No hole. Ed 1991 Montauk 17 - 2012 ETEC 90HP
Phil T	#5  Posted on 06/23/08 - 1:16 PM
Administrator Personal Page Personal Album Project Albums Posts: 7046 Comments: 6 Joined: 03/26/05	Duh! I am a dimwit. I have a handle similar to that on my '91 Outrage. Mine is a D shape. Is this what you have? Phil T attached the following image: [34.61Kb]
Joe Kriz	#6  Posted on 06/23/08 - 1:58 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	Ed, You has us fooled. I was thinking the teak hatch cover. The hardware determines the size of the screw. The screws are most likely oval head, phillips, #6 or #8. I would take the latch off and go to the hardware store and try different size screws so they fit the latch properly. You can't put too big of a screw in because of the size hole in the hardware. You will have to determine the length as you don't want to poke thru the other side unless they are using bolts for the application.
egerrity	#7  Posted on 06/23/08 - 2:44 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 439 Comments: 2 Joined: 07/11/07	Yep thats the handle Im talking about. The hatch looks about the same to except for the hinge location. Thank for the pic CBO, can you tell me if the screws are flat head, round head?? Im going to make sure my screws go in with some silicone this time.. the water collects in that thing and made a huge rust mark on the fiberglass. FSR took that one out. Thanks for the info joe Ed 1991 Montauk 17 - 2012 ETEC 90HP
Phil T	#8  Posted on 06/23/08 - 4:09 PM
Administrator Personal Page Personal Album Project Albums Posts: 7046 Comments: 6 Joined: 03/26/05	Ed - Your query is timely since I just removed/reattached the hardware while doing a repair on the hatch. A rough water outing last fall (3-5 ft. breaking waves) had the locker opening to vertical, then slamming shut every other wave. After 20 miles of that pounding the hinge hardware on the hatch side ripped out. Two points to mention: - the holes were not sealed with caulk when removed. (bad) -The D shaped handle attaches to a a formed metal backing piece. This shape is actually moulded into the top of the cover and is gel coated underneath. This level of detail is indicative of Whaler's high quality and design. To answer Ed's question, the screws are flat head phillips. Would guess a 4. They are small and short. I drilled out the holes a smidge and used some 4200 then re-tapped instead of caulk since the interior of the hatch as a balsa like material. Apologies for the wordy reply. Edited by Phil T on 06/23/08 - 4:10 PM 1992 Outrage 17 I 2019 E-TEC 90, Viper 17 2+ 2018 Load Rite Elite 18280096VT
egerrity	#9  Posted on 06/23/08 - 4:35 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 439 Comments: 2 Joined: 07/11/07	CBO They may have been sealed at one point but not now.. and I have the exact handle with molded back that you described..and I will seal the screws with 4200 as you mentioned. Are you going to try to solve the problem of the hatch going verticle by not going in heavy seas or or adding some sort of latch.....?? Ed 1991 Montauk 17 - 2012 ETEC 90HP
Joe Kriz	#10  Posted on 06/23/08 - 6:15 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	I went out and looked at the ones on my Outrage 18.. They are indeed flat head phillips. Not sure of the size but again, whatever fits the hardware is the proper size screw...
Phil T	#11  Posted on 06/23/08 - 7:40 PM
Administrator Personal Page Personal Album Project Albums Posts: 7046 Comments: 6 Joined: 03/26/05	Ed - I am working on a low profile latch gizmo, easy to unhook, will not involve lots of holes and will not snag you. Most of the hardware I have looked at sticks out, is not strong enough or is unwieldy. I hope to have something concrete to share by the end of the weekend. 1992 Outrage 17 I 2019 E-TEC 90, Viper 17 2+ 2018 Load Rite Elite 18280096VT