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| Bomaley14 |
Posted on 07/14/18 - 4:33 AM
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I’m fixing up a 1986 outrage, I’m a live well fishermen has anyone added a thru hole pump on the transom or a below deck bilage? I like my lines to be below deck not exposed, I have seen the bilage pump drilled to the transom I’m just hoping for a cleaner look.
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| butchdavis |
Posted on 07/14/18 - 7:09 AM
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The permanently installed live bait well systems I've seen get their supply side water through a through hull fitting and ball valve mounted through the hull near the keel. Often a pump is mounted there as well. Check out the parts lists for a new 190 Montauk for a pretty good idea of the parts and methods employed.
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| Bomaley14 |
Posted on 07/14/18 - 3:22 PM
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Yes, I’m asking if anyone has drill holes into a 1986 whaler? Is there space below the splash well to hook up a bilage and live well pump
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| Phil T |
Posted on 07/14/18 - 4:23 PM
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It generally accepted advice is to not drill through the hull..
Piercing the hull below the waterline should be avoided due to the encapsulated foam structure.
Most owners with aftermarket bait or fish wells mount a pump off the transom and route the hose up and over.
If you do drill an additional through hull, ensure the wall of the hole is sealed prior to installing a pvc or bronze through hull fitting.
Review this thread:
http://www.whalercentral.com/forum/vi...d_id=22005
Edited by Phil T on 07/14/18 - 4:30 PM
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 07/14/18 - 5:51 PM
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This may not matter for you question, but please follow the guidelines at the top of this page so we know what hull we are dealing with.
Otherwise you might not get the correct help.
Guideline #3
What size might this Outrage be?
17' 18, 20', 22', 25', 27', ______ Other?
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| Bomaley14 |
Posted on 07/14/18 - 6:54 PM
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Sorry 1986 18’ outrage
I’m looking for photos
I know how to do the work I’ve done it on other boats
I want to make sure there space in the aft end of the boat to cut into I’m not fimilair with whaler construction
I’m very good with fiberglass going to remodel the whole boat to look more like the newer whalers with 2 seats and a built in live well
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| rwethereyet |
Posted on 07/15/18 - 3:15 PM
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I have a 1992 outrage 19' I, the same exact hull as the classic outrage 18. I initially struggled with the live well issue also. I was determined to completely enclose the transom and add a live well under the leaning post. Fortunately, I researched this idea extensively. I discussed this concept with Boston Whaler, well known custom boat builders, and fiberglass repair shops---ALL recommended NOT cutting into the hull. My live well solution, as stated above, I added a 14 gallon circular live well tank to the stern of the boat (against the port side ), the overflow goes over the rail, and the pump does attaches to the transom. Unfortunately, the hoses are visible, but minimal due to placement of the tank. The hoses are never in the way, and can be removed when not in use. Because everything is exposed, it doesn't look the greatest, but it is completely functional. Again, when not in use--it completely completely removed. It's a VERY INEXPENSIVE and completely FUNCTIONAL solution.
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| JRP |
Posted on 07/15/18 - 5:12 PM
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Bomaley14 wrote:
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I know how to do the work I’ve done it on other boats
I want to make sure there space in the aft end of the boat to cut into I’m not fimilair with whaler construction....
Knowing how to do the work on other boats is different from knowing how to do it on a Whaler. Since you are not familiar with Whaler construction methods, be aware that Whalers are not constructed like most other boats. (The foam is structural on Whalers - - not just for floatation - - and is bonded to the relatively thin hull laminates under pressure.) You would do your self a favor to follow the advice being given here until you have a better understanding.
rwethereyet wrote:
I have a 1992 outrage 19' I, the same exact hull as the classic outrage 18. I initially struggled with the live well issue also. I was determined to completely enclose the transom and add a live well under the leaning post. Fortunately, I researched this idea extensively. I discussed this concept with Boston Whaler, well known custom boat builders, and fiberglass repair shops---ALL recommended NOT cutting into the hull. My live well solution, as stated above, I added a 14 gallon circular live well tank to the stern of the boat (against the port side ), the overflow goes over the rail, and the pump does attaches to the transom. Unfortunately, the hoses are visible, but minimal due to placement of the tank. The hoses are never in the way, and can be removed when not in use. Because everything is exposed, it doesn't look the greatest, but it is completely functional. Again, when not in use--it completely completely removed. It's a VERY INEXPENSIVE and completely FUNCTIONAL solution.
Good advice.
Btw, is your boat actually a 1992? My 1992 model is a 19 Outrage II. Same hull as yours, with a different interior (including a live-well) and a transom notched for a single outboard. I had thought the last year for the 19 Outrage I was 1991?
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| Bomaley14 |
Posted on 07/15/18 - 5:32 PM
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That’s the info I was looking for thank you
I had a feeling the foam was a structural thing.
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| Joe Kriz |
Posted on 07/15/18 - 6:15 PM
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JRP wrote:
Btw, is your boat actually a 1992? My 1992 model is a 19 Outrage II. Same hull as yours, with a different interior (including a live-well) and a transom notched for a single outboard. I had thought the last year for the 19 Outrage I was 1991?
During that timeframe, you could special order the Outrage 19 I which has the older hull.
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...icle_id=21
See JoeH in that above list as he has a special order hull.
rwethereyet does not give us any information about the Stencil or HIN so we really do not know anything about it except for what he is telling us.
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| Scott Reos |
Posted on 07/19/18 - 11:37 AM
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So what are you going to do now?I want to do the same thing.I Have the same boat.
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