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fuel filler hose re-place
Henry Mariani
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Posted on 03/17/17 - 12:06 AM
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1984 18' outrage
getting water in fuel tank.filler hose is all cracked. any tips on finding a new hose and do i need a hose with a 90 degree or can I use
a flex hose?

 
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Henry -

The fuel fill, vent and supply should all be checked. They tend to rot from the inside. If they are not stamped with Alcohol Resistant, they should be changed.

You can buy each of the hoses by the foot at a marine supply store or online. Be savy, prices vary widely.

I have seen members use an elbow or a sharp bend at the turn.



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That hose is usually, 1.5 inch fuel line and is pretty stiff. Have not seen one with any angle. You will get some more input on that. Search this site and other whaler sites for like cases.
Just to make your day, how old is the tank? If original it can be the source of water. 33 years is a long time for an aluminum tank.
Those tanks sit in water. I also would not want to go to the trouble of replacing the hose and then the tank.
Good Luck!

 
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Here is a photo showing the hose turn from Project Albums.

http://www.whalercentral.com/showuser...oto_id=992

Note, you should pull the deck to do this project. Kamie tried to do a hose replacement without lifting and it was a frustrating PITA.


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I'll start by saying I've never had to replace a fuel filler hose so the following is pure conjecture.

I would try heating the hose to hopefully increase it's pliability before installation. Because below deck areas can get HOT in the summer with direct sun and long days I suspect the hose material can handle a lot of heat without damage. The DOT Specs should have that information. I would hope the specs will have a pretty high temp rating due to the danger of fires in vehicles.

If you can find an outdoor propane fired fish fryer or grill you could heat the hose to close to 212 F if the hose can handle that. Getting it installed while hot would require some thought but perhaps the necessary bend could be set before installation.


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You will need 4' of A2 1.50" hose for the fill. Listed as part #00031038 here:

http://www.downwindmarine.com/Trident...00283.html

WARNING: West Marine is 6.00 per foot more expensive.

Better photo showing the turn. Credit: Oakpower


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I could not get the hose to bend enough, without kinking, so I ended up using a copper or brass 90 degree fitting that I sourced from a local plumbing supply house.


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Henry Mariani
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Thank you all for your help and input.I went to fillerneck.com and ordered 48 " of 1.5 " of hose, a 90 degree elbow and 2 couplings .
I'll let you all know how it goes. Thank you all for your help 1984 18' outrage

 
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Sorry I am late. Good source for hose of any kind Tipco.com

 
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I had my 1984 Outrage 18' fuel supply hose and tank vent hose replaced earlier this week by the technicians at the marina where I keep my boat at here in St. Augustine. After watching the whole deal unfold, in my opinion, it is a task for a professional. Needed the Marina Bull (forklift) to lift the floor - just slightly - to properly fit the fuel supply hose to the tank. Vent hose replacement needed a snake to help facilitate routing of the new vent hose to clear the reveal between the top of a metal strap securing the tank and the bottom of the deck flooring. 3 hours total labor (they worked their butts off) plus parts for a total of $420. I could not have done it myself. No more fuel fill issues whatsoever. Fuel tank can now take marine grade fuel as fast as they get can pour it in (at $3.62 a gallon).
By the way, the fuel tank is factory original (Florida Marine Tanks). Might be one of the few left.

 
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I bought the filler, vent and supply lines for my Revenge and GTX from Sue at Twin Cities last year. I gave her the year, make and model of the boats, she looked up the part numbers and they were cut to specs. The hoses actually came from/through BW and believe it or not they were competitively priced. In fact the price was less than most of the online stores. Couldn't believe it.

 
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In process of replacing my 1984 outrage 18 tank also. Does anyone have the length of the vent hose ?


(fixed typo in year)


Edited by Joe Kriz on 04/01/17 - 12:05 PM
 
Peter Chase
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Just checked my invoice. My mechanic ordered and charged me for 7 feet of "5/8 x 25 Type B fuel vent hose". Hope this helps.

 
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