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| dlos |
Posted on 01/04/17 - 12:29 PM
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I've been searching for one of these to buy "used" for several months and have come up somewhat empty. The main question I have is, are these boats rare or are they just held onto by their owners?
There seem to be plenty of "sport" and "super sport" models available but I'd rather have the center console and option to stand up while driving the boat. There are new ones out there pretty readily, would rather buy used though!
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| jgortva |
Posted on 01/04/17 - 2:43 PM
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dlos,
I am no expert on late model Whalers, however I believe Montauk's that small are rare as evidenced by only 10 members on this site listing ownership of a 150 Montauk. Dauntless is the most popular 15 or 16 footer in a Whaler center console. Up to 1996 or 1997 I believe they were a max of 15 foot with a max H.P rating of 75 HP or so and then from 1999 or 2000 and newer they were redesigned as a 16 foot with a larger HP capacity such as 115-130 H.P max. Montauks are more expensive and the 2 most popular sizes are 17 and 19 foot. So I think the dealers, "sell" the heck out of the cheaper 16 foot Dauntless and then, "bump" people into a Montauk when they look at 17 foot and up. I am sure others on this site will be educate you on the differences between the 2 models, but to an untrained eye they look very similar in appearance and layout. As for the plethora of late model Sports and Super Sports on the market, those boats really took off after the last redesign as they were the, "Hot" new offering from Whaler at a time when when the Montauks and Dauntless models had basically remained the same for a decade or more. I am the owner of a 1995 15 foot Dauntless and I couldn't agree with you more about a center console boat. Stick to your guns in regards to a center console and maybe just expand your search to look at some of the dauntless models for sale.
Jim G.
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| dlos |
Posted on 01/05/17 - 6:38 AM
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Hey Jim, thanks for the reply and insights. Your explanation makes sense and is totally in line with my experience in searching for a 150 Montauk. I have come across a few Dauntless models in the 13-16' range and am considering these as well. There's a Dauntless 13 nearby but I think that's a little too small for the intended use which is for my kids to learn/use. We have a 21' Scout Dorado that's too much boat for them and I'd like them to be able to go out on their own some.
Thanks again, will keep looking and will be sticking to the center consoles.
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| Phil T |
Posted on 01/05/17 - 6:55 AM
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This is the slowest period of the year for boat sales, new and used.
Hang in there.
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| dlos |
Posted on 01/05/17 - 7:48 AM
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Phil T wrote:
This is the slowest period of the year for boat sales, new and used.
Hang in there.
Hmm, hadn't considered that angle, good to know and thanks!
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| Harvey Boysen |
Posted on 01/05/17 - 6:48 PM
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There are many more 17's available than 15's. The 17 is a great boat. I own a 1995 17 and a 2003 170 and they are great.
I have one in SC and one in Texas. I have hydraulic jack plates on both. I can take them in 12" of water inshore and 10 miles offshore.
Look for a 17 and you will find many more available at the same price or less.
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| jgortva |
Posted on 01/06/17 - 6:13 AM
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dlos,
I agree with the Dauntless 13 being too small for anything other than tender use. I looked at a few before I ended up with my 15 foot Dauntless. I have now owned 3 Boston Whalers in a dozen or so years and finding each one was kind of a long term search. I would say each one took 6 months to a year to find before purchase as finding the right model in decent condition that the owner does not have delusion's of grandeur when it comes to price is not easy. I tried to kind of make a hobby out of it by checking Craigslist, Boat Trader, local newspaper ads, and ebay a couple of times a week in my spare time. It seems like they always come up at some of the most inopportune times and I lost a few, "good deals" along the way so be prepared to, "leap" when you see a promising ad.
Good Luck
Jim G.
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| dlos |
Posted on 01/06/17 - 8:28 AM
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Jim, that's about how I'm approaching it now. It'd be great if there were a way to have a bot scour the net searching and notify me when something comes up in any corner of the WWW. I've added Facebook ads to my search with all the other usual suspects. Boat Trader, POP Yachts and those services unfortunately aren't kept up to date making things a bit murkier but I'm sorting through the noise there now.
I have definitely come to the conclusion that I'll have to jump when I see something along with maybe having to make a road trip as well! I'm not in any terrible rush which is always helpful.
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| michaelv |
Posted on 01/08/17 - 3:05 PM
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Hang in there, just bought one as my first boat and could not be happier, I looked for over a year and then one fell into my lap right here
in Pittsburgh. i did not haggle much on price. I was watching sites from Baltimore to delaware.
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| Cape Codder |
Posted on 01/12/17 - 4:01 AM
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Try this:
http://www.whalercentral.com/forum/vi...d_id=23426
It's not cheap, but a new 2016-2017 150 Montauk with the same equipment is well over $25K
This appears to be a "gem" from the pics, and never even bottom-painted.
Says Maryland Virginia boarder. Worth the trip..........
BTW, we moved up to the 2008 150 Montauk from a 1987 13' Super Sport. We absolutely love it!!
(EDIT: changed link to the ad here on WhalerCentral)
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| jgortva |
Posted on 01/12/17 - 6:03 AM
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That boat I believe was also offered on WC as well. Price isn't too bad if he is willing to negotiate a little. However, looks like it is slightly underpowered. Not to put it down, it would be good for a starter boat especially with kids or just for a couple of people, but I believe it might be a challenge to get it to perform with any substantial weight on it such as 4 people. I have a 70 HP on my 15 foot dauntless as it was rated for 75 H.P max and I experience those issue even after re powering. I know the newer Montauks should be rated for higher H.P than that Merc, so if I was looking for a boat to take 4 people fishing, I would be looking for 90 H.P or so. If it was just for 2, that boat would perform just fine.
Jim G.
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| dlos |
Posted on 01/13/17 - 4:54 AM
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Thanks to all for posting this one. I've looked at it, also looking at a nearly identical one closer to me at a better price, comparable condition, 1 year old, 15 less hours. The 60HP motor is a slight concern but fort my purposes (kids) not a deal breaker at all.
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| Phil T |
Posted on 01/13/17 - 5:02 AM
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The Montauk 150 has a max hp rating of 60hp and a max engine weight of 305 lbs.
One additional point of interest- its hull weight (no engine) is 950lbs, the same as the classic Montauk 17 which had a max hp rating of 100hp.
cf:http://www.bostonwhaler.com/family-ov...0-montauk/
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| jgortva |
Posted on 01/13/17 - 9:24 AM
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Phil,
Thanks for the clarification on max h.p. It seems low compared as you say to the Montauk. I am at work so I cannot research it myself, but I also though the newer 16 foot Dauntless had a higher max h.p rating as well.
Jim G.
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| Phil T |
Posted on 01/13/17 - 9:49 AM
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The 170 Dauntless model (2012- present) is a vastly different boat than the 160 Dauntless of the 1990's.
It has a dry weight of 1,680 lbs, max hp of 115hp and engine weight of 410lbs (weight of Mercury 115). It is 280 lbs. heavier than the 170 Montauk
cf: http://www.bostonwhaler.com/boat-owne...resources/
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Posted on 01/13/17 - 12:34 PM
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jgortva wrote:
However, looks like it is slightly under powered. Not to put it down, it would be good for a starter boat especially with kids or just for a couple of people, but I believe it might be a challenge to get it to perform with any substantial weight on it such as 4 people. I know the newer Montauks should be rated for higher H.P than that Merc, so if I was looking for a boat to take 4 people fishing, I would be looking for 90 H.P or so. If it was just for 2, that boat would perform just fine.
Jim G.
Jim you are right that the Montauk 150 feels slightly under powered but I have very often 4 adults (in excess of 750lbs) on board and have no problem cruising at 24 knts. and WOT run 31 mph (I myself weigh 270 so you might count that as 2 adults) I have had 6 adults and needed to have all of us shift our weights around a little to get her onto plane but with the Merc. 60HP Bigfoot 4S this is a nice small boat and will scoot around fine.
I have ran mine now for over 270 hrs and seldom wished I had more HP, love the sipping of gas with the 60 HP Merc. We always want more power or a bigger boat.
So to the OP dlos, for 4 or more teenagers this would be a great safe boat/toy that is quick enough at 32-34 mph.
Skipper E-J
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| Cape Codder |
Posted on 01/13/17 - 2:30 PM
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Ditto on the above comments.
Our 150 Montauk does very well with 4 adults aboard.
I really don't support the under-powered notion.
Is it a speed demon? No. But it's not a DOG either.
Drive one.
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| dlos |
Posted on 01/14/17 - 2:01 PM
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Thanks for the replies, insights and advice.
So, I'm looking at a 150 now, '06, 75 hours, Merc 60 Bigfoot EFI, fishing package, trailer, in great shape, garage kept. No bow cushion, no covers, no electronics, no bowrail. I've seen pictures, it looks in near showroom condition, full tread on trailer tires etc...
What's a fair price? I've seen them from $11-17k about the same as this one. I think I can get out under $13, good deal?
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Posted on 01/14/17 - 2:53 PM
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If it all checks out...under $13K is pretty darn good.
Heave you priced out a new one???? About double the $13K
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| dlos |
Posted on 01/14/17 - 3:36 PM
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Cape Codder wrote:
If it all checks out...under $13K is pretty darn good.
Heave you priced out a new one???? About double the $13K
Ha! I actually checked out a new one today, new boats are great, but these little 15 footers are pricey! Coulda got OTD around $24K, so yeah, under $13k is very attractive!
My main concern with anything used is what fuel's been run through it. Ethanol fuels and these smaller boat engines aren't a great combo in my experience. At least the fuel tanks on this boat are external, that eases some of the concerns and running new fuel lines wouldn't be too difficult if it ever came to that.
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