Anyone have a kicker on a Montauk 170?
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Posted on 01/25/18 - 6:25 PM
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Posted on 01/25/18 - 8:01 PM
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I have the long shaft and the 6 1/2 Tanner bracket, When I am fully tilted up I don't touch the water at all. This is the only picture I have with the motor up. The boat is at the boat house so unable to take another until net time I am there. Hope it helps.
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Posted on 01/26/18 - 2:03 AM
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It does help a lot. Thank you!
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Posted on 01/26/18 - 5:03 AM
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Hard to tell, but it looks like the 9.9 tilts higher than my 3.5.
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Joe Kriz |
Posted on 01/26/18 - 11:58 AM
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Are we all on the same page here?
15 inch shaft = Short
20 inch shaft = Long
25 inch shaft = X Long
gypsmjim looks like an X Long shaft but that could be just the photo.
The model number of the motor would tell us for sure.
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JackMuffin |
Posted on 01/26/18 - 12:18 PM
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Joe Kriz wrote:
Are we all on the same page here?
15 inch shaft = Short
20 inch shaft = Long
25 inch shaft = X Long
gypsmjim looks like an X Long shaft but that could be just the photo.
The serial number of the motor would tell us for sure.
I'd bet a beer...seems xl at first glance
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gypsmjim |
Posted on 01/26/18 - 4:39 PM
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Joe Kriz wrote:
Are we all on the same page here?
15 inch shaft = Short
20 inch shaft = Long
25 inch shaft = X Long
gypsmjim looks like an X Long shaft but that could be just the photo.
The model number of the motor would tell us for sure.
The one in the picture on the trailer is a 20" (long), which IMHO was too long for the application. I have since switched to a short (15"), which is what was on the transom in the picture with the boat in the water. By making the switch I actually gained a fraction higher speed (less drag).
Mercury's catalog indicates that they do not even offer an XL (25") in the single cylinder 3.5 HP 4-stroke model.
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Posted on 01/26/18 - 4:42 PM
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JackMuffin wrote:
Joe Kriz wrote:
Are we all on the same page here?
15 inch shaft = Short
20 inch shaft = Long
25 inch shaft = X Long
gypsmjim looks like an X Long shaft but that could be just the photo.
The serial number of the motor would tell us for sure.
I'd bet a beer...seems xl at first glance
Make is a Bud...
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Joe Kriz |
Posted on 01/26/18 - 5:32 PM
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gypsmjim wrote:
The one in the picture on the trailer is a 20" (long), which IMHO was too long for the application. I have since switched to a short (15"), which is what was on the transom in the picture with the boat in the water. By making the switch I actually gained a fraction higher speed (less drag).
Mercury's catalog indicates that they do not even offer an XL (25") in the single cylinder 3.5 HP 4-stroke model.
Would be nice to know the Model number of your motor.
Many manufacturers change their specifications from year to year so trying to find out what any particular years specification can be challenging.
Always best to post Factual information here so we can all be on the same page.
A short shaft apparently is good for your boat/situation as you mention for your Montauk 150.
It may not be good for other models like a Montauk 170 as Mjfnet states in his post where the 20 inch long shaft works for him.
Nice to have references for both newer model boats.
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Mjfnet |
Posted on 01/26/18 - 6:24 PM
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Mine is definitely the Mercury 9.9 hp 20” long shaft. My model # is 9.9MLH.
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gypsmjim |
Posted on 01/27/18 - 8:22 AM
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Model 1F03201HK. The attached EBay listing shows a pic for reference:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercury-3-5-HP-4-Stroke-Outboard-Motor-1F03201EK-Manual-Start-Tiller-Handle-15-/132440879970?hash=item1ed6177362
Certainly, different hulls have different requirements. In my experience kickers are often mounted too low. Sure they can be mounted with the AV plate lined up with the boat bottom and they will work OK. But mounted higher they will work better. The prop just needs to be below the bottom.
Not trying to be argumentative - just responding to a question and trying to provide the benefit of my experience.
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Posted on 01/27/18 - 1:22 PM
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gypsmjim wrote:
JackMuffin wrote:
I'd bet a beer...seems xl at first glance
Make is a Bud...
Any make and several
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Posted on 01/27/18 - 1:33 PM
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Looks like Mjfnet has the 9.9 Long shaft according to his Model/Serial number.
He also has the Manual Start model and a few other Letters missing for the year etc.
9.9/M/L
Below is a photo of a "Four Stroke/ 9.9hp/ Electric Start/ Long Shaft/ HPB" telling us what year
Some of you Mercury folks can tell us what year this is?
Always interested in seeing variations and what works best for different boats and owners.
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gypsmjim |
Posted on 01/27/18 - 1:55 PM
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JackMuffin wrote:
gypsmjim wrote:
JackMuffin wrote:
I'd bet a beer...seems xl at first glance
Make is a Bud...
Any make and several
I've had several already today, so no need for more.
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Posted on 01/27/18 - 1:58 PM
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Joe Kriz wrote:
Looks like Mjfnet has the 9.9 Long shaft according to his Model/Serial number.
He also has the Manual Start model and a few other Letters missing for the year etc.
9.9/M/L
Below is a photo of a "Four Stroke/ 9.9hp/ Electric Start/ Long Shaft/ HPB" telling us what year
Some of you Mercury folks can tell us what year this is?
Always interested in seeing variations and what works best for different boats and owners.
The box tells it all....It's a 2012.
In my case I had a 2017 long shaft and traded it for a 2011 short. Lost my shirt on that one but at least now I got the cats meow...
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Joe Kriz |
Posted on 01/27/18 - 5:33 PM
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We don't have the box here for verification.
Many people tell us they have a Montauk, or a particular year of something. Most of the times they either have typo or some other mistake.
What they really have is something different once they tell us the year and the info or photo from the box.
Factual numbers that are posted here is what we know.
I have lost of boxes in the garage. :-)
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Posted on 01/27/18 - 5:49 PM
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Joe Kriz wrote:
We don't have the box here for verification.... :-)
Joe, I believe he was referring to the "12" that can be seen within the black box in the lower right corner of the decal.
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Mjfnet |
Posted on 01/28/18 - 9:25 AM
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Mine is a bare bones 2015 9.9. The label is simply F9.9MLH
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Joe Kriz |
Posted on 01/28/18 - 12:30 PM
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Ha Ha to me.
I was thinking boxes or crates in some cases.
Thanks for the label numbers mjfnet,
That shows exactly what you have.
OMC used to have the year and accessories in those letters in code.
But the E= Electric, L= Long, etc. and the years used "INTRODUCED" as the code for the year.
So a CC in the Serial/Model would equal a 1988 year model.
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