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Swimming from 16 Whaler
Backriverexpress	#1  Posted on 09/09/15 - 5:03 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 185 Comments: 1 Joined: 09/04/06	How in the heck does everyone get out of the water ;) I've tried two ladders they both don't work We step on cav plate and get out at stern beside engine Mama needs an easier way HELP !!! 1970 Katama
Frauke75	#2  Posted on 09/09/15 - 10:02 PM
Member Posts: 31 Comments: 1 Joined: 11/08/06	There is no perfect way I think. I use one of them hook over the side ones placed by the console. Extending the standoffs would help keep the ladder more vertical and easier to board. ...but hold your drinks as when I get in she dips quite a bit. Cuz i am fat. Sturn boring options are problematic due to wood locations but have been done. Martin Marine (found in the sponsor section) has designed a swim platform for the 16's.(not on his ebay listings but call him his contact info is at the bottom of any of the listings on his ebay store) I have also seen the diver / bass boat, pole type detachable ladders used with a mount that stays fixed to the transom through the hull above the waterline. I looked at the above options and might one day do one of them...but too nervous about any holes that are not essential. Edited by Frauke75 on 09/10/15 - 6:52 AM
Backriverexpress	#3  Posted on 09/10/15 - 9:26 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 185 Comments: 1 Joined: 09/04/06	Im with you, no new holes :) but I do have to solve this ??? Might be time to take the two ladders I bought into my shop and get out the saw sall :) 1970 Katama
Frauke75	#4  Posted on 09/10/15 - 2:14 PM
Member Posts: 31 Comments: 1 Joined: 11/08/06	I locate my ladder in front of the side rail or sometimes just around the front vertical section because that is were the tallest vertical part of the hull is. I might have raised the ladder's standoffs up one step so that it is more on the flat part of the hull and not under the chine. (still needs to be longer to make it vertical) I have a center console so I grab it when I get up... this helps a lot. I might even add a grab bar on the console as it really is necessary for me to board. You with a Katama might have a more difficult time if your side console is farther away than a center console.
ursaminor	#5  Posted on 09/10/15 - 2:41 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 67 Comments: 0 Joined: 08/12/12	X 2 on putting the ladder over the metal side rails. I know I put the folding stand offs up a little higher so they wont slip under the hull and when I reach up to pull myself onto the boat, I pull on the rails, not the ladder. We haven't had any issues doing so both large and small... Hope this helps, nice looking boat! 1989 Montauk 17 / 2012 90 HP Evinrude E-TEC
todd12	#6  Posted on 09/10/15 - 6:44 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 220 Comments: 0 Joined: 07/27/06	Check my personal page. I ended up customizing a transom mount similiar to Martin Marine's platform. I had tabs welded to the tubing and I was able to thru bolt all mounting points, very strong and wood location did not matter. also all holes are above the waterline . Anyway you decide will be a compromise. Good luck Edited by todd12 on 09/10/15 - 6:55 PM Todd
superdave_gv	#7  Posted on 09/11/15 - 1:08 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 17 Comments: 0 Joined: 06/25/06	I have had really good luck with a West Marine ladder (4 step, 7" hooks) that was an easy modification. Basically just drilled the holes for the stand-offs higher up so they hit the hull. Easy to assemble, disassemble. I have drilled into metal many times: basketball goalposts, mailbox, dock frames, etc. In case anyone attempting is a first timer: When drilling into metal, first make a small etch to catch the bit. Then start your drill with a small bit. Re-drill a couple times with larger bits to get to the desired size. If unsure of technique, first do a trial on some scrap. [url]http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t23/superdave_gv/1972_Cohasset_II/ IMG_0238.jpg[/url]
bradsc	#8  Posted on 09/12/15 - 8:37 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 118 Comments: 0 Joined: 01/15/11	It is tough drilling holes into our whalers....but sometimes you just got to do it. There are several options about a ladder. I just don't want something else bouncing around inside the boat. We have a transom mount platform with a 3 step folding ladder. There was only a one step and we just could not climb up into the boat. We went with a 3 step windline. Could not be happier. Getting older and it is easy to get back into the boat. There is no problem with the platform getting in the way and it is there when you need it. Good luck with your research.
DoubleU	#9  Posted on 09/28/15 - 4:44 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 15 Comments: 0 Joined: 09/04/15	On my parents 1986 Montauk I built a rope ladder out of 3/8" dock line and cedar planks, about 1"x 2"x 12", spliced on two snap hooks that clip to the rail standoffs between the front and rear rails, this puts most of the stress on the gunwales, not the rail. And it rolls up for storage (a premium on an early Montauk) The beatings will continue until morale improves
EJO	#10  Posted on 09/28/15 - 11:02 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 669 Comments: 6 Joined: 11/25/12	What is wrong with the standard swim-ladder as used on the newer Montauk 150 series (go to local BW dealer and check it out) We are older to and use this set-up almost every time we use the boat. The only mod we have is a soft rubber pad to put your knee on, loosely laid on the small triangular corner aft deck. See my personal page for 1st picture showing ladder down and second with ladder folded up. Works like a charm. As for mounting you can find schematics showing reinforcements and where to drill and not to drill in the transom when mounting the ladder. Skipper E-J m/v "Clumsy Cleat" a 2008 Montauk 150
bottomline	#11  Posted on 09/28/15 - 11:52 AM
Member Posts: 43 Comments: 0 Joined: 11/29/14	Just purchased the lewis products rescue ladder. I don't use a ladder regularly, so this is in case of an overboard accident. But the garelick inflatable boat ladder would be my choice for regular ladder use. They have a video showing a person climbing into a Montauk. The ladder is made for the contour of the hull, which makes entry easier.Under 100 dollars.
Perry Vayo	#12  Posted on 09/28/15 - 12:47 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 113 Comments: 1 Joined: 07/07/10	On my Menemsha the gunwales have been raised several inches and so I finally found a small ladder that fit - but it's still pretty short. Before I found it, I was just going to move the standoffs up on a longer ladder to make it work.