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1973 Montauk hull number ending in 0473.
Joe Kriz	#21  Posted on 11/06/14 - 3:31 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11434 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	We have photos of the bow platform in our Photo Gallery section under OEM Part Info and Photos. http://www.whalercentral.com/photogal...oto_id=362 Edited by Joe Kriz on 11/06/14 - 3:32 PM
cz4me	#22  Posted on 11/06/14 - 3:54 PM
Member Posts: 20 Comments: 0 Joined: 10/23/14	WOW, that is nothing like I thought it would be. I thought it was some teak boards that ran across the front that you could stand and fish of off. You know, with spaces in between. Like some people put in the bottom of their home made boats.
Joe Kriz	#23  Posted on 11/06/14 - 4:17 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11434 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	The older platforms for the Currituck and Sakonnet are made of wood slats with spaces in between the boards. The fiberglass bow platform is very nice and was available in 2 versions. 1. 1973 to 1975 (smirkless hulls only) 2. 1976 to fit probably up to 2002 (smirked hulls) If you are looking for one, make sure you get the correct unit. Here is one in a 1975 model. http://www.whalercentral.com/infusion...r_id=20361 Another one from 1975 http://www.whalercentral.com/infusion...er_id=9203 And here is one in a 1974 model. http://www.whalercentral.com/infusion...r_id=18100 Edited by Joe Kriz on 11/22/14 - 5:03 PM
Joe Kriz	#24  Posted on 11/06/14 - 4:26 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11434 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	I can see it now. Everyone with a bow platform will now think they have a Montauk II. Forget it. Unless you have the original packing list or paperwork, it will most likely still be a Montauk with the optional bow platform. Bummer. One of the main reasons I never mentioned it back then was that there was a very remote chance that anyone had one. Without any paperwork, who could prove it? Even Boston Whaler doesn't have much on what it really is and never listed it in their catalogs or price lists. Just the way it is, or was. No Montauk II for anyone unless they have the original paperwork. That would be nice. Edited by Joe Kriz on 11/06/14 - 5:01 PM
cz4me	#25  Posted on 11/06/14 - 5:29 PM
Member Posts: 20 Comments: 0 Joined: 10/23/14	Thanks Joe. Now that I see it, I don't want it. It takes up mout of the boat. I don't need something else to trip over when I am fishing.
Joe Kriz	#26  Posted on 11/06/14 - 5:34 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11434 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	Don't get me wrong. I like the platform. The next Montauk I get I hope to add a platform if possible. Whether I leave it in or not will be the final outcome. Whatever Montauk I get, I highly doubt I would call it a Montauk II unless I had the original paperwork stating such. That is my point. Somewhat like way too many people think they own a 1969 Montauk. Or, way too many people think they own a Sakonnet because it has an RPS. Freaks me out. Makes me want to bury my head in the sand and hide. Edited by Joe Kriz on 11/06/14 - 5:36 PM
cz4me	#27  Posted on 11/06/14 - 6:29 PM
Member Posts: 20 Comments: 0 Joined: 10/23/14	The I or II is not important to me. Being a Montauk is. Whar will be hard for me is if I keep it original or not. There are things I would like to add that is not Montauk.
saumon	#28  Posted on 11/06/14 - 6:56 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 142 Comments: 0 Joined: 05/15/12	There's one of those fiberglass casting platform made for the smirkless Montauk that's for sale right now. You should jump on it, they didn't pop up often... http://maine.craigslist.org/boa/47078...98119.html There shouldn't be a lot of those made, much less still intact. Being advertised for a few weeks, I bet it could be bought for around $400, which is a real bargain... Edited by saumon on 11/06/14 - 9:59 PM 1991 Outrage 17' I - 2005 E-Tec 90hp
cz4me	#29  Posted on 11/07/14 - 10:33 AM
Member Posts: 20 Comments: 0 Joined: 10/23/14	Thanks Saumon. I could get interested in this if it wasn't in Maine. Long ways from East Central Florida. I hope someone on the list picks it up.
Weatherly	#30  Posted on 11/07/14 - 4:53 PM
Member Posts: 752 Comments: 4 Joined: 12/31/06	I reviewed the Boston Whaler catalogues for 1973-1976 and the Montauk was described as the Montauk 16. The smirked hull highlighted in the 1976 catalogue was described as the Montauk 17. It seems the correct name for a Montauk with a smirkless hull is, as the Boston Whaler catalogues described, a Montauk 16.
Joe Kriz	#31  Posted on 11/07/14 - 5:18 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11434 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	That is correct for 1974 and 1975. Not 1976 nor 1973. Remember, there were no Montauks listed in the 1973 catalogs so they never existed on paper for public history. 1976 introduced the smirked hull which were called 17' models. What is your point? or idea?
cz4me	#32  Posted on 11/09/14 - 7:02 AM
Member Posts: 20 Comments: 0 Joined: 10/23/14	Found this item for sale on Ebay. It is an advertisement or article about the Boston Whaler Montauk that came out in a yachting magazine back in 1973. I find the article and picture interesting. I have no idea what Lee Outriggers are that they talk about. I also see pole holders of the storage kind hanging from the handrails. I would like to find these. What are the 2 boxes at the back of the handrails? I would also like to know if it had a Bimini Top. Seems to have one folded forward in this pic. The artickle is also confusing the way it is written. Near the bottom it says. “Standard equipment on the 770-lb. Montauk I is most complete.” Can someone explain to me what that means? Here is the item on Ebay. I downloaded the image and enlarged it so I could see it better. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Boston-Whaler-Montauk-SeaBird-V-28-Coronado-23-New-Boats-Ad-/371172064883?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item566b943e73
Weatherly	#33  Posted on 11/10/14 - 3:15 AM
Member Posts: 752 Comments: 4 Joined: 12/31/06	I do have a recommendation: establish a Montauk 16 section in the Whaler models and specs and in the personal pages. That way WC members and guests will be able to distinguish further the differences, of which there are many, between the Montauk 16 and the Montauk 17 models.
Joe Kriz	#34  Posted on 11/10/14 - 10:21 AM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11434 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	Thanks for the suggestion. It is not really worth the effort as we already have several pages and info on the difference between the two along with personal pages, etc.. There are a few other models that carry over to both smirkless and smirked hulls and still not worth the added duplication in the database. Some of these are only for one year so these models are grouped into one common section. Otherwise it would get too confusing for the majority even trying to find which model they are looking for by size. Most people think they have a 17' anyway no matter what year it is. Especially the Montauk 17' The rest of us know some models never were called a 17' model. Here is one page that explains the Montauk enough for most of us which I started years ago. Explains some parts down to latch changes, console changes, hull changes, etc. http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...icle_id=17 And then carried onto another page for the newer Montauk 170 because it has existed much longer then the 16 model. http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...cle_id=115 According to the Boston Whaler catalogs, 1974 and 1975 (2 years) were the only Montauk 16 models. Remember, the Montauk was not listed in the 1973 catalog. 1976 to 2002 were the Montauk 17 models (26 years) 2002 to present is the Montauk 170 model (12 years so far and counting) We also used to have the Outrage 24' listed by itself along side the Outrage 25'. Didn't work out. People looked for the Outrage 25' which was the same hull with a different name so we removed the 24' listing in our Model section and included it with the Outrage 25's. Another section we grouped together but still isn't finished, is the Outrage V-20 and the Outrage 20. http://www.whalercentral.com/userphot...album_id=9 If anyone has worked with searching database information and creating the search guidelines, will know it is easier grouping some things together. At least it is for me, and the end result should be gratifying more for the searcher. They find what they are looking for easier. Sometimes we make adjustments however, we already have a few members thinking their 1975 Montauk is a II model because they have the bow platform. In the 1975 price lists, the bow platform was optional and the bow rail was standard. Therefore, there should be no I or II model for the 1975 year. I have yet to see a true Montauk I or Montauk II with paperwork or confirmation from Boston Whaler to back it up. See attachment below. This is one model Boston Whaler doesn't even have any publicized information about that we have seen. Joe Kriz attached the following image: [100.46Kb] Edited by Joe Kriz on 11/10/14 - 10:31 AM
Joe Kriz	#35  Posted on 11/10/14 - 10:40 AM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11434 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	cz4me, The other parts you are asking about is in our Photo Gallery menu under OEM Parts info and photos. Lee's console outrigger mount http://www.whalercentral.com/photogal...oto_id=355 Locking rod holder boxes http://www.whalercentral.com/photogal...oto_id=564 And much, much, more here: http://www.whalercentral.com/viewpage...page_id=69
cz4me	#36  Posted on 11/10/14 - 5:37 PM
Member Posts: 20 Comments: 0 Joined: 10/23/14	Thanks Joe and thank you all for helping out a new member to this wonderful group. I first got interested in the Boston Whaler when I lived in Port Townsend, WA in the early 1980’s. I used to go out on this jetty to fish at night in the freezing cold with my tackle and a bottle of Jim Beam. Caught a lot of Black Bass doing this. Port Townsend stuck out into Puget Sound near the Starits of Juan de Fuca. The fastest straits in the world. I almost lost it once being out there in a 10’ boat. Anorther time with a 26’ with a 6 cylinder inboard. The tide going out and I am full power with that 6 cylinder trying to go forward but instead going backward. The Coast Guard got me out of that one. When the tide goes out especially if it is a real low tide, all of the water in Puget Sound all the way down to Tacoma tries to get to the ocean through the Straits of Juan de Fuca. A 110 mile channel. The Coast Guard in Port Townsend had 2 boats. A 96’ cutter and a 17 foot Boston Whaler with a 100 hp motor. One day during a bad storm I heard there were some boats in trouble in the straits. I went out on my jetty in the blowing wind and watched the Coast Guard with their 17’ Whaler fly across the water and pull in 30 and 40‘ boats. Once they dropped one boat off they were off again flying across the water to get another one. I saw this 17’ Whaler do things I never thought a 17’ boat could do. That sold me on the Whaler. I could not afford one but I sure sent for Whaler brochures and saw the boat cut in half and 3 people diving off the side of a 13 footer at the same time. Back then I said one day I am going to own one. Well it took me about 35 years but now I have one and am too broken up to take it through the paces. I will be strictly freshwater from here on out. I spent the last 13 years in the country of Panama fishing salt water. Wow what a trip. I sure could have used the Whaler down there. Now I hope to catch fish the size of the bait I used down there. I have had a lot of boats before the Whaler but never felt the way I do about this boat. Just something about a Whaler I guess. Hey, I am glad to be a part of this group.
mtnsherpa	#37  Posted on 11/11/14 - 7:49 AM
Member Posts: 74 Comments: 0 Joined: 10/25/11	cz4me, Thanks for sharing an excellent story and a bit of yourself. -George