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I've read all the posts I can find on the Scotty 1027 rail mount but I'm wondering if anyone has compared that to the newer stanchion mount 2027. Has anyone had a failure with the 1027 rail mount. I'm leaning toward that so I can mount my downriggers as far aft as possible but would like user opinions on the new style.
I winter in Ft. Myers and summer in St. Joseph, Michigan. It’s now about 12 years since I’ve joined this group. I gave my 1972 whaler to my daughter and sold the 17’. Bought an O’Day 28 sailboat and sailed on Lake Michigan. Yesterday I bought a 2005 130 Sport.
I had the Scottty 1027 rail mounts on my 1980 17 Montauk. I got some scrap teak boards from my local boat yard and figured out the correct height I wanted the down riggers. I never had a problem with them but I will confess in the beginning I was worried about the amount of weight being applied to the railing. Nothing bad ever happened. I never got a down rigger ball caught on bottom though. I guess having the correct drag on the down rigger is the key. I don't think the Scotty 2027 would be of any advantage as far as torqued applied is concerned.
My buddy has the 1027 mounts on his "80's" 17' Montauk. They work just fine mounted on the rails. Has the leveling plank underneath them outside of the rail. The balls down pressure keeps them in place. Nice that he can flip them up when we go into dock. I think I would stay away from the stanchion mount because if the downrigger does get hung up, you are pulling directly on the stanchion mount and mid rail would offer some flex and split up the force a little. Like the previous comment, never got them hung up.
Garris
Are the Montauks rails screwed in place or have some through bolting?
Garris, the Montauk rails are all screwed in place. One thing I did when I first got the boat in 2012 was to re-bed all the rail fittings in 4200 and some holes were filled with epoxy and re drilled so I think they are at least as strong as when new. I've noticed some people have rail fittings secured with rivets but mine are all screws. I don't know if one is better than the other.
I winter in Ft. Myers and summer in St. Joseph, Michigan. It’s now about 12 years since I’ve joined this group. I gave my 1972 whaler to my daughter and sold the 17’. Bought an O’Day 28 sailboat and sailed on Lake Michigan. Yesterday I bought a 2005 130 Sport.
Wing, I personally have my Cannon downrigger mounts directly on my gunnels. Each have 2 through bolts in the teak. I am not familiar enough with the Montauks if that is possible. I would stay away from the stanchions for reasons stated above. I would not want direct force on the screwed in hardware. We use 10lb. balls on my friends boat with no structural issues. He actually double reinforced (I did not give it a close look) one side for a crab pot puller that has the Scotty mounting system. Not the Scotty Pot Puller, but the Ace Pot Puller. Minimum use on the pot puller. Poor crab season at Bodega this year.
Being a poor retired guy I've been trying to save where possible. I found a pair of Big Jon manual downriggers on Craigslist for $140 and they're like new and came with 6 lb balls. I ordered Scotty rail mounts, one on Ebay and one on Amazon. I received one and finally got it mounted. I had reservations about the rail. mounting but it is surprisingly strong. A Great Lakes freighter lost it's 1500 lb anchor in the river here and I was able to snag it and raise it with the downrigger.
Not really, but it does feel really strong.
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Edited by wing15601 on 08/05/14 - 3:35 PM
I winter in Ft. Myers and summer in St. Joseph, Michigan. It’s now about 12 years since I’ve joined this group. I gave my 1972 whaler to my daughter and sold the 17’. Bought an O’Day 28 sailboat and sailed on Lake Michigan. Yesterday I bought a 2005 130 Sport.