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Console side door
modenacart	#1  Posted on 01/27/11 - 1:24 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 741 Comments: 4 Joined: 02/28/09	Are all the montauk console side doors the same size. I just bought a louvered side door and it doesn't fit. I have a 74 console. They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety. --Benjamin Franklin
Joe Kriz	#2  Posted on 01/27/11 - 1:29 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11434 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	The louvered doors I believe are the same overall size. However, your model console did not have louver doors. The 1973 to 1976 console had solid doors which apparently have a different size opening. http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...icle_id=58
Finnegan	#3  Posted on 01/27/11 - 3:32 PM
Member Posts: 1926 Comments: 16 Joined: 05/02/08	Owning Whalers with both style consoles, I can confirm what Joe has said. The "winged" console that you have is a different size and different construction than the lovered door assembly, which began in 1978. A louvered door to fit that opening would have to be custom made, or a different size opening would have to be cut into the console. You can see the earlier "winged" console style door here: http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v42...0006-1.jpg Edited by Finnegan on 01/27/11 - 4:28 PM
modenacart	#4  Posted on 01/27/11 - 7:29 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 741 Comments: 4 Joined: 02/28/09	The front door fits just fine, its the side door that doesn't fit. I guess now I will have to decide if I want to cut the opening larger or make new doors. They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety. --Benjamin Franklin
modenacart	#5  Posted on 01/27/11 - 7:31 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 741 Comments: 4 Joined: 02/28/09	What is the model number of your compass Finnegan? They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety. --Benjamin Franklin
Finnegan	#6  Posted on 01/27/11 - 9:27 PM
Member Posts: 1926 Comments: 16 Joined: 05/02/08	The compass on my 19 Outrage is original optional equipment from the factory in late 1974, when the boat was manufactured, a Ritchie "Navigator 2000" series, recessed. This compass model is still widely available, but has been re-designed and modernized. It will still fit the raised circle on the console top. It's a first class piece of equipment, and costs about $225. For my money, the Ritchie Navigator series 2000 compasses are the best you can buy for a powerboat. It'sa big compass, and like Boston Whaler in the Dougherty days, I like big compasses. On the 1978 and later consoles, it looks best as an SS Binnacle mount.
Gamalot	#7  Posted on 01/28/11 - 5:55 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 1086 Comments: 3 Joined: 06/21/10	Here is the 1974 door Josh. Let me know if you need a trace or just the measurements. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72...0_0568.jpg Gary Edited by Joe Kriz on 03/15/11 - 6:21 PM
Gamalot	#8  Posted on 01/28/11 - 6:05 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 1086 Comments: 3 Joined: 06/21/10	Not to hijack the thread but I think we have this one answered. Regarding the compass Fin. I have a similar Ritchie flush mount on mine, Model F60-D7 but it is foggy. Does any one know if Ritchie will refurbish older compasses? Gary
Tom W Clark	#9  Posted on 01/28/11 - 7:45 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 4280 Comments: 7 Joined: 09/30/05	Yes, Ritchie will refurbish an old compass. http://www.ritchienavigation.com/serv...m/service/ The top-of-line compass used by Whaler in the 1970s and 1980s was the Ritchie FN-50, shown in their options and accessories catalogs.
Tom W Clark	#10  Posted on 01/28/11 - 7:48 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 4280 Comments: 7 Joined: 09/30/05	Were the console doors on the first generation Montauk/Outrage consoles made of Mahogany plywood or solid wood? Is the fiberglass of the console exposed as a rough cut behind the door when opened? Is there a rabbet cut in the edge of the door and the hinge mount?
Gamalot	#11  Posted on 01/28/11 - 8:30 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 1086 Comments: 3 Joined: 06/21/10	Here is the back side Tom and it is Mahogany. Just flat 3 ply plywood, no rabbet and the edges of the hatch fiberglass are exposed. I cannot be sure yet but it does appear the ply faces are a different wood and possibly Teak on the front with Mahogany on the back. I'll know better when I do some sanding and begin the finish process. There is a part number on the hinge side of the wood FP0674 which makes some sense as my boat was delivered in July of 74. It is 15.5 inches high and a total of 11 7/8" wide with the hinge strip that is 1 5/8". http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72...0_0572.jpg Edited by Joe Kriz on 03/15/11 - 6:20 PM
modenacart	#12  Posted on 01/28/11 - 9:24 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 741 Comments: 4 Joined: 02/28/09	Which boat used the richie danforth constellation model compass? They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety. --Benjamin Franklin
Tom W Clark	#13  Posted on 01/28/11 - 9:34 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 4280 Comments: 7 Joined: 09/30/05	None. There is no such thing as a Ritchie Danforth Constellation model compass. Danforth was a different manufacturer of compasses. They did make a model called Constellation. Whaler only used Ritchie.
modenacart	#14  Posted on 01/28/11 - 9:51 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 741 Comments: 4 Joined: 02/28/09	That makes more since. They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety. --Benjamin Franklin
Finnegan	#15  Posted on 01/28/11 - 10:26 AM
Member Posts: 1926 Comments: 16 Joined: 05/02/08	Two comments: Regarding the lower, larger, front of console louvered doors, the doors on the 1978-1982 consoles are larger size than those on the 1983 and later consoles. They are not interchangeable. But the side console louvered doors are. I sent a Ritchie Navigator in for service, since some fluid had leaked out. Charge was $100, and the guy at Ritchie told me that, in effect, they were not going to repair my perfectly good compass, but instead give a new one. They did!
Joe Kriz	#16  Posted on 01/28/11 - 10:48 AM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11434 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	Just for clarification, The 2nd console for the Montauk started in 1977 1977 to 1982 http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...icle_id=58 You can also view the 2nd console in the personal page section for all the 1977 Montauks.
NauticalLumber	#17  Posted on 01/28/11 - 7:24 PM
Member Posts: 160 Comments: 1 Joined: 01/09/08	....If interested I can make a louvered door for your console. I would need the measurements of the fiberglass opening on your console. Thanks, Mike Nautical Lumber Co
Gamalot	#18  Posted on 02/11/11 - 12:23 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 1086 Comments: 3 Joined: 06/21/10	I did some sanding today and as stated above I can confirm the front veneer on the side door is Teak while the rear side is Mahogany if any one cares. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72...0_0573.jpg Edited by Joe Kriz on 03/15/11 - 6:20 PM
modenacart	#19  Posted on 02/11/11 - 1:19 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 741 Comments: 4 Joined: 02/28/09	I guess it was cheaper to use mahogany for the rear? They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety. --Benjamin Franklin
Gamalot	#20  Posted on 02/11/11 - 2:19 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 1086 Comments: 3 Joined: 06/21/10	Could be Josh but what I did find interesting is that the door was varnished on the inside and oiled on the outside. It could just be they did the Teak face to keep it all looking the same as the rest of the wood on our boats. Another interesting thing I found was the strip of wood above the door, I'll call it a drip edge, is Mahogany and that too was varnished instead of oiled. My boat came from the dealer with the fishing platform forward of the CC. It is attached and screwed down on to strips of wood fastened all around the sides, front and the front of the CC. They too were Mahogany and varnished and every piece of that wood was completely rotted from water and debris that collected in those joints. When I re-install the fishing platform the wood strips it will be to fastened it to will be UHMW poly plastic that will never rot. So far there is not a piece of Teak on my boat that I can't clean up, re oil and re use and almost every piece of Mahogany has to be replaced because it rotted. HMMMM.