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| ritzyrags |
Posted on 11/26/08 - 9:05 AM
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Scott my Friend,
It seems that on my reasonably well preserved unit;
My hull color is light or pale Grey.
The upper deck is Desert Tan.
The cap itself is also Desert Tan .
But then again,I have been told that on another unit of the same year;
The cap gel is "another undetermined " color..
For the sake of uniformness, I have resurfaced my cap in Desert Tan gel.
I will also be doing the deck in this color and will redo the hull in the original factory Grey.
I must ad that the resurfaced cap looks absolutely splendid in the new gel.
It is really up to you to pick and decide which color your eye will get along with Scott.
As I have understood that you are thinking of her as a family member by now..
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| FtLMale |
Posted on 12/19/08 - 5:37 PM
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Just want to toss in a thought... I've just picked up a '77 outrage 19.5 and I notice you use pvc to replace the 'thru hull's" as an inner protection. I don't know if pvc has any adhesion to epoxy beyond a mechanical joint and wonder why you don't use fiberglass tube to insure a chemical and mechanical joint.
I don't want to "break" the string and maybe this deserves a new "string" but I am new to Whaler's and Whalercentral so if someone knows more then please post a quick reply.
Thanks, Mike
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| sraab928 |
Posted on 12/20/08 - 4:54 AM
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Mike,
I have used this method on several boats now. If you sand the surface of the pvc the epoxy adheres very well. Many other members have used this same method. Your idea of fiberglass tube has merit as well - Not sure how readily available the fiberglass tube is in various sizes.
Scott
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| FtLMale |
Posted on 12/21/08 - 6:22 PM
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Scott, thanks for the response, I can only guess you have better things to be doing. I have seen the fiberglass tubes available as replacement shaft logs for inboards. I have one on my sailboat, thus without real research, it would no doubt be available in sizes over 1".
Your project is much more advanced then I have envisioned on my Outrage but I would really like to incorporate much that I learn from yours to improve on my Outrage. Please keep up the outstanding refurbishment and improvements on the original design.
Mike
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| sraab928 |
Posted on 12/22/08 - 4:12 AM
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No problem Mike - Let me know what you decided. I hope to be posting some updates on the boat soon.... She is in the shop right now - They are poppping the top off and prepping the boat for all new Gelcoat.
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| ritzyrags |
Posted on 12/22/08 - 6:13 AM
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Hey Scott,
Good the hear from you again.
You know what?
Would it be at all possible for you to describe in detail the step by step method that you have successfully used in lining up the through brass drains with the PVC.
I do recall of you talking about it before.
I think that would be a good and useful one here.
I for one will be examining your method as my tubes have been bought but not installed as of yet.
Cheers!
Serge.
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| ritzyrags |
Posted on 01/13/09 - 11:21 AM
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And how are things going with your famous refit Scott??
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| sraab928 |
Posted on 01/13/09 - 5:17 PM
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Serge, I wish I had good news to report... so far the progress has been slow and I have been really busy with work so I haven't been able to get up and see it. I did request a status late last week and it didnt seem like it was too far along yet.
Scott
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| ritzyrags |
Posted on 01/15/09 - 10:20 AM
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That's OK, Buddy,
As long as you have the time to keep an eye on it from time to time.
On mine I've been busy getting the snow off the roof of the garage.
Got caught once;
thinking that the metal structure of the roofing ribs could handle the weight.
I had to weld and repair the tubular structures.
I won't be so trusting again..
She is doing fine and awaits warmer weathers so that the work will begin again.
I have kept busy thinking about having a self managed Whaler draw for the guys..
And this just to keep life interesting in those overcast months.
Looking at the churning of the engine in full reverse, I may just have to rename this project "The Great Whaler Waffle".
I hope that you will see the humor in this Scott,
Serge.
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| sraab928 |
Posted on 03/05/09 - 3:16 AM
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Here are some udated pictures of the project. You will see that the cap has been removed. The hull has been flipped. Lots of cracks have been ground out already and the bottom paint has been removed to reveal some ugly old repairs that had been made.
See Project Album for pics
Edited by sraab928 on 10/13/09 - 6:32 AM
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Posted on 03/05/09 - 3:26 AM
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See project album for pics.
Edited by sraab928 on 10/13/09 - 6:32 AM
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Posted on 10/13/09 - 6:32 AM
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Well the cap is back on! The boat is really starting to take shape again. I have added a couple of pics to my project album.
[img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum_3/useralbum_29/capbackon.jpg[/img]
Edited by sraab928 on 11/11/09 - 3:52 PM
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| Luke Block |
Posted on 10/25/09 - 1:29 PM
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I have a question that I hope this group can help with.
What is an exceptible weight for a 1970's vintage 19-4 Whaler outrage outboard set-up? Given the age of these boat and the inevitable water absorbing into the foam issue many older whaler seem to have.
Whaler said they weighed 1,500-1,600 lbs off the line.
I have one that weighs 2,400 lbs What to do?
Thank you in advance....Luke
p.s. this is my 1st post on this website, and I'm not sure it went out to more than just one person.
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| sraab928 |
Posted on 10/25/09 - 4:34 PM
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2400 pounds with the motor and accessories? Any fuel in the tank?
Scott
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Posted on 10/25/09 - 6:25 PM
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HI,
No motor, about 3/4 tank of fuel (25-30 gallons), and around 100 lbs of extra stuff; rear seat, anchor & chain, along with some other small stuff.
How bad is it?
Thanks...Luke
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Posted on 10/25/09 - 6:54 PM
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Luke,
How did you weigh the boat without the trailer?
Or did you weigh it with the trailer and deducting that from the total?
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| Luke Block |
Posted on 10/25/09 - 7:12 PM
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HI,
The trailer weight was deducted from the total.
Can my boat be holding somewhere around 100-120 gallons of water in the hull? Have you ever heard of that? And if so is it DOA?
...Luke
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| sraab928 |
Posted on 10/26/09 - 3:37 AM
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So 2400 pounds - Minus 180 pounds for gas. Minus 100 pounds of misc stuff = 2120 pounds. So in reality you are about 520 pounds heavy. (I assume you weighed trailer seperate and didnt rely on a document to tell you what the trailer weighs).
Based on that one could assume you have about 62 gallons of water in the hull. Not improbably and certainly not the end of the boat.
Have you put it in the water? Check the water line on the transom. As long as the scuppers are at water level or above it you should be good to go.
Scott
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Posted on 10/26/09 - 4:25 AM
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Scott,
Thanks for the reply. I have seen the boat in the water with a 150hp (25 inch shaft) Johnson on the transom, and the scuppers were nominally 2 inches above the waterline. I have also seen, and taken pictures of, some other same vintage 19-4's, and they all seem to have more or less the same waterline with the same HP motors. It was weighed on a scale at the local dump (MDI Maine) and I just found out the total with the trailer no motor was 3,200 lbs.
Someone has basically given me this boat. Before I start a time consuming, and costly restoration project, I wanted to have some idea (from people who know) if the boat is worth saving, i.e. putting $$$ into. It is not in bad shape all the original hardware, console, and woodwork are still there. The floor and transom seem good, no soft spots anyway. It needs a fair bit of glass work, some parts replaced, and a lot of TLC to be back on the water next summer.
I’m not looking to show it at the next whaler regatta, just have a reasonably good boat that can get me around the inner islands of MDI.
Sounds like a go?
…Luke
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Posted on 10/26/09 - 6:29 AM
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Sounds like a go to me - If you look over my pictures I have poured a ton of money in mine... but I will have a 72 19 Whaler that will be brand new.
PS _ they need 20" shafts....
Scott
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