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1973 19'4" Outrage Rehab
ritzyrags
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Posted on 09/08/08 - 9:49 PM
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What smell?
There's no smell here!!
Don't know what you're talking about...Shock


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And how's my buddy Scott doing?

I had heard through the grapevine that you were shopping for a shop to to some Gel resurfacing..Smile
How's that coming along?


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Im doing great Serge - been busy stripping the hull down - there is a lot to do - it surprised me - and of course some hardware is really fighting me - thank God for the dremel.

I have three shops to talk to now - all want to see the boat - I have to get it back on the trailer to do that -

The good news - The two open areas of the boat have been dry for days now - but I will leave them open till the last minute.

Thanks for checking in - I will post some pics when I'm done taking all the stuff off....


Scott
1974 21' Revenge w Mercury 200 ProXS V8
 
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Posted on 09/11/08 - 6:36 AM
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Scott - did you send off you bright work or do you have a local contact that does re-plating? Your parts look good and I have a few pieces I need to get done -- were they expensive? There is a local bumper shop here that I need to check out but we will see.


Edited by Blue_Northern on 09/11/08 - 6:36 AM
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I took them to Frankford Plating in Philadelphia - I took a while but the job was worth it. The cost was $450.00 - This included the bow eye and transom eyes for my 13 as well.

You can ship to them direct or you could send to me and I will take it there personally. Whichever works for you - You can PM me if you would like Rob.


Scott
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Thanks for the info Scott - I am going to go talk to these guys locally. If I do not have any luck I will PM you about your source. Thanks for the information.


Rob
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Thought I would post some more pics of the tear down process. I will be ready to pull the motors next week. Then I will take it to the three shops I have in mind to get some estimates on the re gelcoating.

Here is the stripped console..... quite ugly isnt it?
[IMG]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_28/0911081439_t1.jpg[/IMG]

Had some trouble getting the cleats off - This one had some severe corrosion on the underside.... That screw is fused to the cleat now...
[img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_28/0911081431_t1.jpg[/img]


Edited by Joe Kriz on 09/23/08 - 6:20 PM
Scott
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One motor off - one to go.... I really wish I wouldn't have put it so far in the corner of the shop.

[img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_28/0922081703_t1.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_28/0922081621_t1.jpg[/img]


Edited by sraab928 on 09/23/08 - 6:22 PM
Scott
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Posted on 09/24/08 - 6:31 AM
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Scott - It looks like there are to many holes drilled for the motor. Did the previous owner move it several times or something. I assume you are going to epoxy in some dowels and fill these up. Make sure to measure out the holes where they are today -- you do not want to have the same thing happen to you. I guess you could just leave the proper holes open. I have been know to go a little over board when working on things. I want mine to be hole free when I start to rig it out.


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Scott and Rob,

While you guys have your consoles off is there a chance you guys could get and publish measurements like these. If you do not have photoshop skills send me the images and a sketch with detailed dimensions and I would be happy to do it.




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Jeff - I need to measure mine for my windshield replacement. I also have photo shop skills that should make this easy enough. Give me some time and I will get them over to you for posting.


Rob
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Looks like you will soon be addressing the resurfacing of the transom.
I have had the same issues with a certain number of holes drilled for past installations.
I have the chain fall but will have to solve the support to be able to remove my outboard.This to be able to inspect and resurface this specific area in it's entirety.
If it helps you for future installation of power,"My Girl" came with a large piece of stainless bolted to the inside transom section for beefing up the support for power.I will be leaving the plate on for added stability.

Great work Scott my friend..


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Hey guys - yeah it appears that there has been many single and dual motor combination over the years. I will be filling in all the holes except for the correct set for the twin application. I am thinking of sleeveing those holes to prevent any water intrusion in the transom if the sealant ever leaks.

Ok well I have both motors off now..... Here are some progress pics and a pic of my custom motor stand.

[img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_28/0923080928_t1.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_28/0923080928a_t1.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.whalercentral.com/images/photoalbum/album_28/0923080943a_t1.jpg[/img]


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Jeff wrote:
Scott and Rob,

While you guys have your consoles off is there a chance you guys could get and publish measurements like these. If you do not have photoshop skills send me the images and a sketch with detailed dimensions and I would be happy to do it.



Jeff would you like me to measure mine as well? I'm sure its the same as Rob's as our boats are of similar age. Let me know.


Scott
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Posted on 09/25/08 - 6:32 AM
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I like the motor stand. If I had my boat at the office I would never get anything done. When I had the dealership building I could go out and work on the boat -- it sure was nice to have that option when you were slow.


Rob
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Well its been a while - I figured I would post an update. I contracted a local shop to do all the gelcoat work - She is scheduled to go in December 1st. They will be removing the cap - grinding out all the cracks and crazing etc... and regelcoating the whole hull inside and out - new deck skid and all. Then the cap will be put back on and regelcoated as well. The deck hatches will all be recored. The console will be refinished as well They figure it will take about 4 months to complete. It wont be cheap but I figure I will have a new Whaler when I am done.

When I get it back a new fuel system, rub rail, wiring and new twin 90hp motors - I am leaning towards the new Suzuki's.

I of course will visit regularly and take photos and post them here.


Scott
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Scott, great to see you here again and the "project" sounds wonderful ! Hope to see you in NY soon and again in June for alittle get together !! Jim

 
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Posted on 11/20/08 - 7:15 PM
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Scott - For your reference, here are a few more photos of mine. After these were taken, the boat is now totally upgraded, converted to single engine, and ready for service. As you can see, only the red rubrail has to be replaced!!! Maybe new Mills canvas also. New photos soon.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v42...rage%2019/

Since you're staying with twins, I have the original twin engine Morse "red knob" MT-2 control, with neutral safety switches, if you're interested. Only downside is no trim control in the handles.

You will have a knock-out boat when completed, with that new gelcoat job. Are you going to try to match the original outside and inside colors?

On the fuel system, I installed the Mercury style (compact) water sep filter behind the little plastic panel, under the narrow "stern seat". (look for the 3 big screws holding it in the photos) The fuel line then runs over to the Port side, fitted with an "ell", and back to the engine with primer bulb. I put blank plates over the the two rubber boot rigging ports, and am not using them, instead using the smaller openings under the cross member. This keeps all rigging way off on the sides, and not in the way of the teak well cover.

The all original console, designed way too low, is raised 4" on teak riser blocks and beam.

PS: Left a message at Barbour today, no return call. Hopefully tomorrow!

 
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Scott my friend,

It is good to see you back.

I can only see the movie RV so many times in thinking about you guys.Grin
In shorts and; you'll pardon the pun here;
It is great to hear of how your refit is progressing.
I have been planning my phase two on my own project here;
The deck.
As discussed before there is about 80% of factory non skid on the surfaces and I am at school to a plan of actions to renew the surfaces.
I will be keenly listening to your progressions on your favorite project now..
I know that at the completion of your refit,and after viewing your photo gallery;
My one word comment will be OUTRAGEOUS!!Pfft

I've got your six!


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Thanks Guys!

I am thinking about switching her to desert tan or something of the like - Since the boat is not going to be original - (im replacing the wood doors with something nicer, repowering with 4 strokes, hydraulic steering, etc) I can move on the color a little - It just have to look nice with the red rubrail and logo....

Anyone have any other color ideas?


Scott
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