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1973 21' Outrage Bow Light
Joe Kriz	#21  Posted on 07/14/14 - 3:17 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	Many of those are questionable in my view. There is another light that was also flat on top. (see attached photo below) Here is one of the Puck style we all can see. http://www.whalercentral.com/userphot...to_id=1016 And here is another ODD light like the one we are discussing. It was used for a brief period too. This is different from the Puck style above. See attached photo. (I am looking for a better photo of this one) Joe Kriz attached the following image: [10.32Kb]
Jeff	#22  Posted on 07/14/14 - 3:34 PM
Member Posts: 1987 Comments: 34 Joined: 04/02/05	Questionable, not if you look at the reflection on the side of that flat box light vs. what is produced on rounded surface. The dark highlight on that box light is skinny and pointed at the top. The other dark reflections on the puck lights are broader in width and it has a much more uniform width top to bottom. The other thing is the attached image above of the box light, box light's lens in side profile are much tall and more a square box shape. The puck lights in side profile have a much skinny and horizontal rectangle shape to them. Having been schooled in design, illustration and visual communications and having worked for 15 year professionally photoshopping and retouching images it is clear to me what I see even in those lower resolution catalog images. I think there are more than just one single sighting of that light. 1993 23' Walkaround Whaler Drive
Jeff	#23  Posted on 07/14/14 - 3:41 PM
Member Posts: 1987 Comments: 34 Joined: 04/02/05	Also, in many of those images I pointed to the light in question is on a chock. I can not think of any instance anyone has show are inferred there was a square flat box light (as shown in the image above) on a chock. 1993 23' Walkaround Whaler Drive
Joe Kriz	#24  Posted on 07/14/14 - 3:46 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	Having been schooled in design, illustration and visual communications and having worked for 15 year professionally photoshopping and retouching images it is clear to me what I see even in those lower resolution catalog images. I think there are more than just one single sighting of that light. That's good for you Jeff. Not the rest of us. I wouldn't bet the world was round just because I was looking at some reflection. I don't guess here on this site. I use factual information. Not guesses or reflections or if someone "Thinks" it is. Good eye though and I don't disagree. It just isn't concrete enough for me.
Joe Kriz	#25  Posted on 07/14/14 - 3:50 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	The other light I show is just an example of the other light most of us know about. Whether it has or doesn't have a bow chock is immaterial. The chock was a option for the other lights, not sure about this one. It is another light that Whaler put on some of their hulls for a brief period. Neither of these 2 lights can be found in a Whaler Parts catalog that I have ever seen. We will probably never know why Whaler used these temporarily and on some hulls and others they used the standard light. Could be many reasons. Price, availability at the time, etc.. Edited by Joe Kriz on 07/14/14 - 3:53 PM
Finnegan	#26  Posted on 07/14/14 - 4:32 PM
Member Posts: 1926 Comments: 16 Joined: 05/02/08	Now that the "puck" light issue is settled, and having looked at Joe's excellent bow light photo page: http://www.whalercentral.com/photogal...oto_id=838 I can add some more detailed clarification to those descriptions. Regarding the stamped metal light shown as used 1982-1986, I can definitively say that this light was used earlier than 1982, and as early as 1979. My all original 1979 Montauk has that light on it. I bought the boat from the original owner, and I mentioned that the boat did not have the heavy cast SS bow light fitting. He told me the stamped SS one was original. Afterall, this boat only had 250 hours of total use since new, and had been stored for over 20 years unused. Nothing had ever been replaced or updated on the boat. I don't have a close-up detailed photo, but if you do the two step enlargement of this photo, you can see it. It's actually a good light, with better and brighter illumination properties than the cast SS fixtures. http://smg.photobucket.com/user/lgolt...2347672606
Joe Kriz	#27  Posted on 07/14/14 - 5:14 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	Thanks Larry and Jeff, I would like to add the other 2 lights on that page. 1. The Puck style (with and without the optional chock) 2. The other one whatever it is called. (without the chock and looks like it would not even fit on a chock) One other thing we would like to know for a fact. From anyone. What bulb do these 2 oddball light fixtures use? Also note: Tom Clark sent us the photo of the standard lights. (I added a couple of notations) Edited by Joe Kriz on 07/14/14 - 5:30 PM
MG56	#28  Posted on 07/15/14 - 3:32 AM
Member Personal Page Posts: 357 Comments: 0 Joined: 05/11/13	Joe, I have the second light you are talking about, with a picture on my Personal Page. I can take better pictures of it & check out the bulb if you want.
Joe Kriz	#29  Posted on 07/15/14 - 1:04 PM
Site Owner Personal Page Personal Album Photo Albums Project Albums Posts: 11447 Comments: 452 Joined: 03/18/05	MG56 wrote: Joe, I have the second light you are talking about, with a picture on my Personal Page. I can take better pictures of it & check out the bulb if you want. Absolutely. Please do give us the bulb number and maybe a photo of it. We would like to have a few people with this light to do the same so we can verify they all have the same bulb. That is a good photo of that other light which is different then the puck style. I attached a photo below for future reference here. Photo Credit: MG56 Joe Kriz attached the following image: [37.57Kb] Edited by Joe Kriz on 07/15/14 - 1:15 PM
Radlax23	#30  Posted on 07/15/14 - 8:57 PM
Member Personal Page Posts: 28 Comments: 1 Joined: 07/13/13	Joe, next time I am near my boat I will take pictures of my puck styled light. Also I will try to disassemble it and see if I can locate any information on it. Like as you said the bulb it used or any manufacturer information. 1973 21 ft Boston Whaler Outrage
Light chop	#31  Posted on 04/22/18 - 12:02 PM
Member Posts: 1 Comments: 0 Joined: 02/01/18	Reviving an old thread, I have the same puck light on the 1973 Outrage 21 I just bought this winter. Needs new chrome but for the moment I’d just like to replace the lenses, which I think would entail replacing the whole top piece. Under the cap, which integrates the lenses, you have to lift out the bulb assembly and you can undo four screws in the base plate of the light. Can I retrofit the “correct” (depends how you define that) dome light, or has anyone found a source for a new puck?