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75 HP E-TEC on 1978 Montauk
critter52
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Posted on 01/17/13 - 7:43 AM
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I acquired a 1978 Montauk, pristine condition, with a 1978 85 HP Johnson. The motor ran after sitting up for 7 years, but since I paid little for the rig, I began searching prices for a new or used motor at a reasonable price. I found several very good deals on used motors, including a 115 OptiMax for 3900 and a 90 OptiMax for $3700 at a dealer out of town I had bought from before. However, having had several 4 strokes before, and doing research, I had my heart set on a Yamaha 70 HP 4 stroke. I went to a local dealer I had bought from before, and he convinced me I needed a 75 hp E-Tec. He stated he could get any motor I wanted, but stated the reasons for the ETEC--5 year warranty, would give me a price I couldn't refuse, power, no maintenance for 300 hrs or 3 years, no timing, belts or chains, good gas mileage, POWER, POWER!

Well, he charged me at least $1400 less for the motor, NO rigging charges (I did pay $250 for a jack plate, wanted no extra holes drilled.)

When I took it out for the maiden voyage, it started instantly, hard to explain INSTANTLY, but instantly. The dealer and his mechanics stated I better have it pointed in the direction I wanted to go when I hit the throttle. You have to experience it to believe it! When I gassed it, the boat was INSTANTLY on plane, hard to describe how fast it was.

Will keep track of oil used and approximate gas mileage and report back in several months. HAPPY SO FAR!


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Folks who have not personally experienced the Evinrude E-TEC often fail to grasp how instantaneous the acceleration really is. It is quite unlike the old conventional two stroke technology and worlds apart from a four stroke.

And while a 75 HP E-TEC on a Montauk may not have the same top speed as a 90 HP on a Montauk, the hole shot and midrange acceleration are the same. In fact the E-TECs really feel like a much larger motor during acceleration and midrange because of this snappy throttle response.

It is also why an Outrage 21 with four people on board will pop on plane instantly with only an E-TEC 90 for power.

 
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critter52 wrote:
He stated he could get any motor I wanted, but stated the reasons for the ETEC--5 year warranty, would give me a price I couldn't refuse, power, no maintenance for 300 hrs or 3 years, no timing, belts or chains, good gas mileage, POWER, POWER!


Actually it's no maintenance for 300 hours or three years which ever you hit last. I did a 3 year maintenance on my E-Tec and my mechanic ask me why, I only had 100+ hours on the engine? Have it set for XD-100, smokes less. warn all your passengers to hang on before you hit the throttle and just for laughs, winterize the engine in the middle of summer, because you can.

 
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Bob Younger put a 75hp E-Tec on his Eastport.
http://www.whalercentral.com/forum/vi...post_17361

Unfortunately for us he hasn't added any photos of the new motor on his personal page.

 
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And I love it! More so the captain (my wife) loves it!

Okay Joe, I'll add some updated photos to my page this weekend.


Edited by Phil T on 01/18/13 - 10:17 AM
 
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I have a 2011 ETEC 60 on a restored 1967 Eastport and could not be happier. Boat runs 38 mph with 2 people and normal load. Fuel/oil usage is very low, quiet, instant starts, etc. An incredible piece of engineering indeed! I might have picked up another 2 mph with a 75 but it's a bit heavier as well.

 
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I seem to be feeling a magnetic pull towards e-tech if I decide to repower my 22 outrage cuddy. The 200- 2 stroke yamaha runs fine but is amazingly thirsty. It keeps us from using the boat as much as I would like.

 
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I just checked the Evenrude webside and it looks like the E-tech 75HP and 90HP are both 320 lbs, is that right? If so why would anyone consider the 75?

Also looking at that yamaha F70, at 257lbs that looks like a very good option for the 17' size Whalers. Any idea what kind of performance I'd get with a F70 on my 17' Montauk?

 
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I just checked the Evinrude website and it looks like the E-Tech 75HP and 90HP are both 320 lbs, is that right? If so why would anyone consider the 75?


Because the E-TEC 75 will cost $1000 less than the E-TEC 90 and offer everything the E-TEC 90 does except the last 3.8 MPH.

Yes, there are the same motor but for the tuning and computer programming.

The Yamaha F70 pushes a Montauk to 38 MPH if it is rigged correctly. I have two friends who have repowered their Montauks with the F70 and are very happy with this performance. Not the same acceleration as the E-TECs but a very nice, light weight motor indeed.

 
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Posted on 01/23/13 - 11:16 PM
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You can view a "Quick Reference Guide" for Engine Weights here in our Article link on the left sidebar.
http://www.whalercentral.com/articles...ticle_id=5

 
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actually the difference in price between a Yamaha f70 and my 75 ETEC was $1400 OR more after cALLING AND VISITING A LOT OF LOUISIANA DEALERS. The difference in price between a 90 ETEC and the 75 was another 1500, or 2900 diffference, I guess for some, price is no object for an extra 3 MPH!!!! I am very happy with my slow and inexpensive motor.

 
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So what are guys paying for the E tec 75? I will need to repower a 16 Nauset this spring and am starting to save/shop now...


Edited by Joe Kriz on 02/20/13 - 11:34 AM
 
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Friend put a new75 E tec on his 1993 Montauk and for fishing bays and 2-3 miles off shore great motor. when I re-power my 17 Montauk I plan on a 75 E tec

 
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Being in NY I love the fact that you can winterize the boat with the push of a button and then if it gets nice in December you can take it out again and re winterize it and then do it all over again

 
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critter - what dealer did you use - i am going to repower in the spring and this sounds great.


1987 Montauk 17, 2013 Etec 115
 
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Real Deal Marine in Alexandría, talk to Jerry Brown. Tell him Chris sent you.


Edited by critter52 on 02/20/13 - 3:39 PM
 
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Good to hear. I just ordered an etec 150 for my Outrage 20, replacing an 1987 Yamaha 200. Hopefully, it will have enough power as you know the boat is rated up to 200hp. Details to follow.


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I have finished rigging my boat, time to go fishing. Put deck on the front, cant figure out the way to post pictures, pretty sure no one has ever done one like this before. Put a Minkota 55, plenty of power. Getting 37.2 mph, with me, 18 gal. gas and my 5lb black poodle/child. 75 hp ETEC, 17 prop

 
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My brother just told me I should be able to avoid sales tax if I buy my motor in DE, anyone familiar with the rule on that?

 
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It is true that Delaware does not have sales tax. The question is do you plan to order it and install it yourself or drive the boat up to the dealer? If you install the engine yourself you still need a dealer to hook the engine up to a computer and start up the outboard, setup the oil and other parameters.

 
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